Selling my 1998 450DA, Starting $48,000 NO RESERVE auction.

Agreed Humph. I thought this would be going up quickly.

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So the auction is over. Anyone we know win the bid?


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wasn't me. but then again its a little over my budget or i may have considered it. looks like somebody got a deal!
 
$55k? I'd say they did! Best of luck to both parties!

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Great deal for sure
 
I actually regret not bidding. Even at $60K, add $20K shipping and $25K to get her serviced and updated it would be a great boat for right around $100K!
 
HUMPH said:
I actually regret not bidding. Even at $60K, add $20K shipping and $25K to get her serviced and updated it would be a great boat for right around $100K!
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Agreed!

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Oh God, I can't believe my filters are off.

Well I'm well into my third Vodka and Tonic.

The original post made me cry. I revere the 450. The 370 Express is a close second.

Four years of no maintenance on diesels and their fuel systems, and every other system on a boat is an epic disaster.

This is a sad story all around. My heart bleeds for the OP.

Why is there a surprise at the low selling point?
 
I love the 45 and watched the bid close this morning.
Someone got a Great deal..
 
HUMPH said:
I actually regret not bidding. Even at $60K, add $20K shipping and $25K to get her serviced and updated it would be a great boat for right around $100K!
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I've read through his first post a few times. It looks to me, if hiring everything done, that 25K for repairs would be a very optimistic number. He thought this through well and priced realistically. Given the situation I think he did a good job of selling this boat.
 
I'm glad for the OP, he achieved what he set out to do.

I do not think anyone stole this boat and I would be interested in the end-state costs to bring it back to glory. Everything mentioned (nice to see honesty in a listing) will require deep pockets and a lot of time to restore. I hope someone on this board got it and will take us through the journey. Best wishes to both parties.
 
Sorry to disagree, but I have the same boat as JC and have done all the stuff his boat requires except I have done it according to the maintenance schedule so my boat stays current. Also, I know JC and know that he had a great boat when life got in his way. Here is what the various services would have cost on the Gulf Cost. Caterpillar boats and a 450DA isn't hard or terribly expensive to "bring back". Considering that you would do a lot of the following to any 15+ year old boat you purchased anyway, if he is real, the buyer of this 450DA got one hell of a deal:



Full detail rubrail up = $1500
Full detail hull only = $750
new seawater pumps/impellers = $1600
New bottom job 3 coats high end paint = $3000
Clean heat exchangers & coolers = $1500
Rebed 4 deck hatches = $800
Repair soft deck on 1 hatch = $800 est.
reseal windshield sscrews =$400
Clean and reglue headliner =$600 est.
Fuel filters =$56
Oil filters = $34
Oil 13 gal =$156
Generator seawater pump =$460
Generator oil filter & fuel filters = $$35
Generator oil = $ 12
Clean/rod out generator heat exchanger = $$350
Fuel additives =$150

total $12,203


Assumes owner will do the simple maintenance stuff like oil and filter changes but will hire detailing, fiberglass repairs, etc.
 
And I was counting fuel polishing, possible soft goods updates as well as upgrading the chart plotter. I stand by my statement. I could have done all of the above and sold it for at least $125K here... Or kept it!
 
Frank - As a 450 DA owner, do you have this maintenance schedule you could share? Couldn't find anything in the manual.
 
Here is a link to the Caterpillar maintenance schedule and manual. It was a part of the owner's packet for your boat and should be there with the other Cat info you have.


http://www.oya.com/service/mechanical/3116_Maintenance.pdf


My boat is in salt water and we use it 12 months a year, so I have learned to adjust the maintenance intervals for what works in a heavy salt, warm water environment. The other thing to keep in mind is that this manual was written in a vacuum by Cat and it accurately describes the maintenance the engines need. After 20 years of ownership, I have learned that this isn't necessarily the most practical or most cost effective schedule. For example, we get 200 hours on seawater impellers, which you can stretch, but the cost of a 300 hour interval must include opening the heat exchangers and digging the broken impeller blades out of the end caps.

I also do not rebuild seawater pumps. When a pump begins to leak, the bearings and seals have ot be replaced and usually, the pump shaft is pitted, You might get 750 hours out of the OEM pumps, but if you spend $450 on the necessary parts then pay the labor cost to rebuild them, they will last about 1/2 that long before leaking again. I have found that Sherwood OEM replacements are mopre cost effective t hem a pump rebuild.


Hope the above helps.............
 
Thanks, as always Frank, for your invaluable information! You are making me owning our 450 so much easier and it's greatly appreciated.

FYI, we've put on 150 hours and 300+ miles since splash-in on Easter weekend...
 
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