Rough docking - and neighbor's comment

TurtleTone said:
You mean like this?




As you can see, if that were a boat, it's going to get damaged. Your fender is not doing anything. You would have to have 1 or 2 people dedicated to fender placing, but they would have to practice A LOT to get good enough to catch the contact point right before it happens.
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Again, I'm not here to argue. I'm merely communicating what OTHER captains communicated to our class. If situations dictated it, pivoting off another boat WITH a fender in place was not considered unjust. Again, don't shoot the messenger.

As far as the picture is concerned...

1. The picture is a completely different situation than what we are discussing. If that was a boat, how would it have been damaged with a fender placed much higher along the rub rail?

2. The dockhand was not asked to keep the boat off the dock. The dock had the rub rail so one COULD pivot off of into the slip, which was exactly what was being done before he moved into the place and the picture was snapped.

The picture is not a true representation of the situation that we're discussing.

Doug
 
rondds said:
That reminds me - Rod nearly crashed into my neighbor's boat on Saturday. Funny thing is he wasn't even trying to dock and that was with his little boat! :grin:
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And it wasn't windy and I wasn't drinking... I guess I have to blame the wife...
 
sfergson727 said:
Doug, again you are forgetting that you could be pushing the other boat into an obstruction or against the opposing pier. Just because the damage is not being done at the point of impact, does not mean damage is not occurring.

Further, by saying that other captains say it's okay, so it must be so, is kind of like watching deputy barney fife and saying all police officers have to carry their bullets in their pockets. Just because some guy has no respect for other's property, or is such a weak skipper that he must bounce off every boat in the marina to get his into a slip does not make it right. Trust me, as an airline pilot, we are all trained to the same standards, but there are some airline pilots I would not trust unsupervised with a sling shot, so you need to take any information gather from a supposed "Captain" with a grain of salt, not gospel.
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Point taken.

Doug
 
sfergson727 said:
Trust me, as an airline pilot, we are all trained to the same standards, but there are some airline pilots I would not trust unsupervised with a sling shot.
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That's it! I'm done. I'm trading in the frequent flyer card!
 
:wow:people over react over little thing that scratch should bring a smile about getting out and having fun.. memories:smt038

now my brusied mb wheel is another story I PAID EXTRA FOR WHEEL INSURANCE AND IT IS NOT COVERD:smt013

NOW i will look at the brusied wheel and smile and remember my friends I was with Saturday and boating...
the damage we do to ourselves seems to hurt the most. K-9:thumbsup:
 
sfergson727 said:
You know what they call the guy who graduated last in medical shool?

Doctor.

Same applies with most occupations I suppose, including aviation.
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I call him "someone else's doctor." I guess it's all semantics to some.

Oops! I just noticed the spelling error. I guess one would actually call him the affirmative action doctor.
 
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We used to say C=DDS. Of course I got straight "A"s.

Maybe it's just semantics, but what exactly is the difference btwn "pivoting off of," "bouncing off" and "crashing into" your neighbor's boat when docking? Depends who is describing what occurred, I guess.
 
Percussive maintenance, eh? Only works a couple of times in a row. :grin:

Most laptop keyboards will pop right up if you can get a thin screwdriver under the front edge. Some will have a screw or 2, usually up from the bottom in a battery or drive opening holding them in. I have had good luck cleaning a couple of different ones. I ran into one a while ago that I could not disassemble without destroying. If you can get it to pop out, most will have small screws or plastic tabs holding the plastic frame with the keys to the circuit board. If yours does, you're in luck. Take the plastic keyboard part and clean it in the sink. Set it in the sun to dry. Reassemble and reinstall. If you can't disassemble it, you should be able to get a part number off of it. Search the net for a replacement. It's not worth paying for that repair, only take it in if it is covered under warranty.

Oh.. if you have a small circuit board that you can't remove from the key assembly, you can probably get away with getting that wet as well. Just be sure that it is completely dry before applying power to it. An hour in bright sun should be plenty.
 
I think we have all been jerks one time or another too Im sure. An example for me is I have been impatient with people on the launch ramp only to realize I had an incident where I pulled in, ran to my car to retrieve, and noticed my car keys were not where I usually put them...ran back down to the boat to check the glove box, checked in some bags, cursed, ran back to the car to find somehow they had fallen under the seat.

All in all maybe a 5 minute delay, but still, I try and be more patient now as it could be me being the delayer again in the future. Unless it is blatant ineptitude (like loading towels, coolers and other stuff on the ramp) I try and look at myself a bit.

Same with us and our boat as some others have said...A little ding here and there I dont worry about. All of my friends have tapped my boat here and there rafting up. I dont think twice about it.
 
rondds said:
We used to say C=DDS. Of course I got straight "A"s.

Maybe it's just semantics, but what exactly is the difference btwn "pivoting off of," "bouncing off" and "crashing into" your neighbor's boat when docking? Depends who is describing what occurred, I guess.
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I try not to "pivot off of" anything. Like you said, must depend on which boat you're on... :lol:
 
Maybe it depends on "intent." For example, it's all good if, as you approach the fairway, you say "I intend to pivot off of Doug's boat across the way, then off of Brian's boat, clip Rod's bow pulpit, slam into the first piling, gouge Tony's blue hull, and then nothing but net."


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YUCIConUOw[/YOUTUBE]
 
sfergson727 said:
Well, I just realized it's time to take the omputer to the repair shop, for some reason my laptop keyboard has delaired war on the _ button. I hate dell!:smt013:smt013:smt013

It works if I pound on it though, cccccccccccccc
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You might be able to rescue it by blowing it out with compressed air. Disassembly varies by model, try to find instructions on Dell's web site for keyboard removal. Or just take the easy way our and buy a Mac.

ImpulseIII said:
Anyone pivots off my boat....we have a problem!
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I was wondering why you had that lead pipe in Impulse III's cockpit.
 
Lead pipe my arse. Frank probably packs iron. Remember, he now lives in PA, where they cling to their guns and Bibles.
 
:grin:
 
You handled yourself well and its sad that we have boaters out there ,that forget a little helping hand goes along way when your in the water , it reminds of the people that gather at th gas dock and wait for a boater in trouble , am glad your wife waited to you , little things like that can make for a bad day.
 
Pride & Ego are hard things to let go of..... I am not a master by any stretch, but I have improved considerably over time (and a bow thruster install). With that being said it has been 2 season since I felt the flush of being in over my head. This past Saturday I had 5 first time guests on board and approached my guest slip with not enough awareness of the wind and current going on around me. I didn't tell everyone to sit down and shut up, I allowed them to talk, stand, and distract me from my mission (get on the dock safely). As I was approaching the slip at a 90 degree angle (for a stern in port tie) and thinking I could pivot the boat (with forward & reverse + bow thruster) the wind picked up and put my dinghy (hanging off the swim step) into the piling @ the end of the finger pier. No damage done other then to my "pride & ego". I do credit the Admiral with assessing the situation and very calmly talking me off the ledge. Anything can happen on any given day.....
 
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