Remote Monitoring

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by SKybolt, Feb 17, 2021.

  1. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    And you never will, there is a great article on seabits.com that explains why we never will without using a vpn and having the boat connect through that. You need some sort of end point to access it through. Because of the public cell/wifi DDNS will not work like it does for your house. I will try and find that article, it explains it much better.
     
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  2. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    I use the same, but don't suspend because I usually stay in the water year round. Great app that gets around the typical issues of accessing the boat remotely. I also keep the Maretron cloud service going as well.
     
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  3. bobeast

    bobeast Dance the Tide SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 22, 2017
    Isleton, CA
    2002 310DA
    350 MPI w/V-drives
    Thanks Orlando. I was hoping it weren't so but feared it was. I do have camera access with Reolink cameras. I'm guessing they setup a vpn to their cloud servers to pull it off.
     
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  4. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    Yeah, something like that, but a bit more complicated then that.

    This article is a bit of a tough read but explains why and how to do it yourself.

    https://seabits.com/remotely-accessing-boat-systems/
     
  5. bobeast

    bobeast Dance the Tide SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 22, 2017
    Isleton, CA
    2002 310DA
    350 MPI w/V-drives
    Thanks! I'm actually a computer scientist but a lot of this IT stuff is still over my head.
     
  6. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    I am actually a Labrador that loves the water and boats that some how act's like an engineer during the day. I get lost in some of this as well.
     
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  7. HardRockin

    HardRockin Member

    86
    Jul 26, 2020
    Willow Berm Marina, Isleton CA
    2002 Sea Ray Sundancer 510
    2005 Sea Ray 185 Sport
    1998 Sea Ray Sundancer 450 SOLD
    3196 Caterpillars
    I have a really dumb question to ask some really smart people…

    Can I simply buy a Foscam dome camera, mount it to my hard top, hard wire it to a WiFi router on the boat, and communicate/view it from my iPhone while away?
     
  8. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    If your wifi router (like a peplink) is connected to a public access point (marina or the like) and you use the Foscam app, you will be able to view your cameras from anywhere. You need to use an app or something that has an end point (server of sorts) that can redirect your wifi connection to where the boat is reporting too.

    To access the boat or the boat to access the public WiFi, you need to have something that will act as your home's cable modem. This thread here goes into that. http://clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/ubiquity-bullet-m2-vs-peplink-max-br1-mini-wan-wifi.101605/ or the above seabits link.
     
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  9. alnav

    alnav Well-Known Member

    Sep 16, 2009
    West River, MD
    40 MY
    QSB 425
    For several years I've wanted a reliable remote temp monitoring app for the winter (I stay in the water most years). I tried AcuRite but never got it to work well and they now seem to be out of the monitoring business and fully into weather stations which would be overkill. Last year, I tried a Govee unit but it would not stay on line and I am seeing that as a common complaint in reviews.
    After some research this year I went with SensorPush (https://www.sensorpush.com). They have stand-alone sensors that will connect to a router but that brings the VPN issues into play. I got their G1 Gateway which connects to my router via ethernet but also can do wifi. The Gateway sends the data to a free cloud that I can access with their app. I set it up today and so far so good.
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    The Gateway is only about 3 inches square and the sensors about 1 inch. The sensors can be attached with 2-sided tape but also have fittings to use a zip tie to secure the unit to the overhead, which is what I will do in the ER.
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    The app has an overview screen plus an expanded view for each sensor with trends over time.

    Compared to other solutions, this one isn't cheap but I'm hoping that reliability and flexibility will make it worth it.
     
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  10. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    @alnav Al, what a great solution! Excellent find, but I have to disagree with the "this one isn't cheap", I pay more for my yearly Maretron cloud service then this setup cost's with 2/3 sensors. For what this offers I think this is quite affordable and looks to be an excellent system. Please keep us up to date on it's reliability.
     
  11. Blown284

    Blown284 Active Member

    917
    Jan 12, 2014
    Chesapeake Bay
    2004 SeaRay Sundancer 460
    Cummings 480CE
    Screen Shot 2022-01-09 at 11.21.16 AM.png I've been using boat command for a few years and love it. You can turn on and off different devices, have temp sensors, door sensors and turn on/off a/c's if you wish. I can monitor bilge activities and it will alert me if the bilge goes off more than X (I define X) times per day.

    I also just recently purchased the Vesper Cortex which is an AIS, VHF, DSC device that also has remote monitoring built in. Just haven't installed it yet. Garmin recently purchased Vesper....
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2022
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  12. Blown284

    Blown284 Active Member

    917
    Jan 12, 2014
    Chesapeake Bay
    2004 SeaRay Sundancer 460
    Cummings 480CE
    P.S. the picture shows "outside temp" and "inside temp". The "inside temp" is the boat command separate sensor as part of the system. Because I'm OCD, I also have a temperature stick connected up to my wifi (I use Verizon MIFI) a little higher up in the ER. SO I have a lower ER temp sensor (boat command) and higher ER temp sensor (temp stick). :). There's about a 4* delta between the two. Not bad.
     
  13. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    2006 Sea Ray 48
    Naught On Call
    Cummins QSC-540s with V-Drives
    11 KW Onan Genset
    @Blown284 I'm installing a Vesper Cortex in the coming weeks. I can't wait to use it this Spring. I was excited when it was announced that Garmin bought Vesper.

    I am replacing my Raymarine 240 VHF. My helm has twin Raymarine (RM) E120W's. Cost is prohibiting a wholesale changeout to Garmin so I am going to piece meal it. So my first thing to figure out is if I have a SeaTalk or SeaTalk ng network behind the helm. Then, I need to decided if I want to add the Vesper Cortex to the existing RM SeaTalk ng network OR create a new Garmin NMEA 2000 network and add the E120W to that. That will all depend, I think, if there is a free SeaTalk ng port on the rear of one of the E120W's.

    How does that plan sound to you?

    Jaybeaux
     
  14. ttmott

    ttmott PhD in OCD TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    2006 - you are probably all Seatalk, SeatalkHS, and NMEA 0183 (VHF) but your E120W should have NG ports on the back of them.
    Your GPS receiver, Autopilot, and tridata are usually all Seatalk. It is a mixed bag on depth/temperature transducers; some are Seatalk and others are NMEA 0183. SeatalkHS should be your MFD's, and Sounder.
    Raymarine says if you connect and use the NG ports the Seatalk ports will be disabled on the MFD's; when I attempted to use both it all worked just fine. I did end up changed the autopilot controller to the SPX (?) which was NG....

    Regardless, I think you can do a step by step migration over to NMEA 2000 without having to change the MFD's right now.
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2022
  15. Blown284

    Blown284 Active Member

    917
    Jan 12, 2014
    Chesapeake Bay
    2004 SeaRay Sundancer 460
    Cummings 480CE
    Jaybeaux,
    Plan sounds good to me but I decided to just wholesale replace everything. I know I know.. expensive but I'm a grain guy and this Raymarine old stuff is driving me nuts --- especially the old school autopilot. LOL.
     
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