Pulled The Trigger -- New 280DA Owner

chuck1 said:
Ok dumb question. On a non-tidal lake with a floating dock why would you have to cross the stern ropes?

Like I said in the other she looks great!
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I really don't have a good answer for you. The guy from Marine Max helped me get it tied up the first time and that's what he suggested. I'm tucked in pretty tight and it's not particularly choppy so I haven't observed this setup to be an advantage.

The other boats that pull in bow first obviously don't criss-cross any lines and they are fine.

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Congrats, she looks great!

What size flag is that?
 
Congratulations! Beautiful boat. I am a big 280 fan. I started with a 2004. It is a great boat for our lake.

I drive by your slip every day. I usually honk when I see Kyle out there. I'll have to look out for you as well.
 
teekster said:
Congratulations! Beautiful boat. I am a big 280 fan. I started with a 2004. It is a great boat for our lake.

I drive by your slip every day. I usually honk when I see Kyle out there. I'll have to look out for you as well.
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Thanks! Yes, honk or stop by. I'm one dock before Kyle's, 2nd slip in. You can see me from the road. I have 240 DA parked next to me.

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That's a great looking boat, congrats

Ok dumb question number 2, this for you and everyone, what is the saucer looking thing on your arch? I assumed it was the radio antenna, but mine does not have one. As an interesting point I'm not sure where the radio antenna is!
 
Inmotion said:
That's a great looking boat, congrats

Ok dumb question number 2, this for you and everyone, what is the saucer looking thing on your arch? I assumed it was the radio antenna, but mine does not have one. As an interesting point I'm not sure where the radio antenna is!
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That is the TV Antenna. Not to answer with a questions, but is some sort of converter box needed now for broadcast TV?:huh:
 
Inmotion said:
That's a great looking boat, congrats

Ok dumb question number 2, this for you and everyone, what is the saucer looking thing on your arch? I assumed it was the radio antenna, but mine does not have one. As an interesting point I'm not sure where the radio antenna is!
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That's a Glomax TV antenna. Mine has never worked.
 
Actually, the Glomex (we typically refer to them as Blomax) antennas suck at traditional analog TV signals. They do work well with digital signals and especially the digital signals on the UHF part of the spectrum... So the government actually helped the boating community out by forcing the digital conversion for TV's... but they'll probably tax you on it so don't get too excited.
 
Four Suns said:
Actually, the Glomex (we typically refer to them as Blomax) antennas suck at traditional analog TV signals. They do work well with digital signals and especially the digital signals on the UHF part of the spectrum... So the government actually helped the boating community out by forcing the digital conversion for TV's... but they'll probably tax you on it so don't get too excited.
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I can confirm this to be true. We get exceptional digital reception -- no pixelation or dropped signals and a crisp picture. But...the 2 or 3 analog signals that we still get are really bad. The picture looks like trying to tune in an old UHF channel with rabbit ears. Pretty bad.

Marine Max replaced our TV before delivery with a digital set with a built-in decoder. Great TV for the size and application.

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Tonka Boater said:
The maiden voyage was last Friday...finally! I spent all day Friday and Saturday getting her detailed and loading our gear, etc. Sunday was the first trip with the whole family and she ran very nicely. We ran her for a little more than 5 hours to speed up the break-in and plan to get in another 5 this weekend.

I am very impressed with how she handles too. I had no problems at all getting her backed into the slip with the single screw in relatively tight quarters. Very responsive and obedient -- unlike my children.

I really like how the flush-mounted GPS install turned out too. It's easy to ready and doesn't look like an out of place appendage like it did on the RAM mount on my 240 SD.

Marine Max replaced the TV with a digital HD model and it really has a nice picture. We get at least 15+ digital channels over the air.

There are a couple of bugs to work out but overall we LOVE IT!

Looking forward to a relaxing summer.

Here she is all clean and ready to run.....

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Man, that's one good looking hot rod:thumbsup:. Is that flex teak on the swim platform?
 
Tonka Boater said:
I'm having a hard time picturing this setup...do you have a picture you can post?

I guarantee that my 5 year old will be in the drink at least once before the end of the season after tripping on the lines.

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I will look and see if I have a picture. If not I will snap one this weekend. We are also on a non tidal lake and cross our lines. For us it helps keep the ducks off the swim platform while we are gone.
 
Simple fix for the lines; The port side line crossing in the back, eliminate it, it's not doing any work as any movement to the left is cushioned by the fenders. Remove the line cfrossing to the starboard cleat and reconnect it to the U-shaped tie down ring located on the lower right side by the HIN numbers with a stainless spring clip. Those are shaped roughly like a figure 8 and have a spring latch that opens. Take a short dock line (of matching color of course) and connect it to the spring clip and clip it to the tie down ring and bring it across to the dock cleat located on the port side. This will hold the boat against the finger dock, which is what you want and at the same time it will be low enough to avoid tripping over. The crisscross technique you are using along with a crisscross in front is typically used to hold a boat centered in it's slip. Since you don't have a finger or pole on the starboard side this is a moot point and makes the line on the port cleat useless. The spring clip also makes leaving and entering the slip much quicker. The line stays on the dock. When you return, just clip it on and you're done.
Beautiful boat..

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/105536/377%20710/0/spring%20clip/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=spring%20clip&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=spring%20clip&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=323&classNum=10904
 
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jg300da said:
Simple fix for the lines; The port side line crossing in the back, eliminate it, it's not doing any work as any movement to the left is cushioned by the fenders. Remove the line cfrossing to the starboard cleat and reconnect it to the U-shaped tie down ring located on the lower right side by the HIN numbers with a stainless spring clip. Those are shaped roughly like a figure 8 and have a spring latch that opens. Take a short dock line (of matching color of course) and connect it to the spring clip and clip it to the tie down ring and bring it across to the dock cleat located on the port side. This will hold the boat against the finger dock, which is what you want and at the same time it will be low enough to avoid tripping over. The crisscross technique you are using along with a crisscross in front is typically used to hold a boat centered in it's slip. Since you don't have a finger or pole on the starboard side this is a moot point and makes the line on the port cleat useless. The spring clip also makes leaving and entering the slip much quicker. The line stays on the dock. When you return, just clip it on and you're done.
Beautiful boat..

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/105536/377%20710/0/spring%20clip/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=spring%20clip&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=spring%20clip&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=323&classNum=10904
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Great idea w/ the spring clips. I like it! Although i highly doubt this would ever happen when used for docking... we were always told in scuba diving classes never to use those clips. There is a way, if the rope got a little tangled, that the latch could open and release the rope. But like it said, can't really see that happening when docking. I like the idea!
 
jg300da said:
Simple fix for the lines; The port side line crossing in the back, eliminate it, it's not doing any work as any movement to the left is cushioned by the fenders. Remove the line cfrossing to the starboard cleat and reconnect it to the U-shaped tie down ring located on the lower right side by the HIN numbers with a stainless spring clip. Those are shaped roughly like a figure 8 and have a spring latch that opens. Take a short dock line (of matching color of course) and connect it to the spring clip and clip it to the tie down ring and bring it across to the dock cleat located on the port side. This will hold the boat against the finger dock, which is what you want and at the same time it will be low enough to avoid tripping over. The crisscross technique you are using along with a crisscross in front is typically used to hold a boat centered in it's slip. Since you don't have a finger or pole on the starboard side this is a moot point and makes the line on the port cleat useless. The spring clip also makes leaving and entering the slip much quicker. The line stays on the dock. When you return, just clip it on and you're done.
Beautiful boat..

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/105536/377%20710/0/spring%20clip/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=spring%20clip&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=spring%20clip&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=323&classNum=10904
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Thanks for the tips.

I've never seen a boat secured to the dock with spring clips though. Not saying you're wrong....just never seen it. I would be concerned with the strength of the clips. Seems like they would snap pretty easily under rough conditions.

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Tonka Boater said:
Thanks for the tips.

I've never seen a boat secured to the dock with spring clips though. Not saying you're wrong....just never seen it. I would be concerned with the strength of the clips. Seems like they would snap pretty easily under rough conditions.

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me neither, but i would think if the clips were rated to the same load as the rope you would be ok?!?! Just a thought.
 
It's not the type of spring clip you see on a keychain, it's actually heavy gauge stainless. Very strong. Again, I'm not talking about replacing your bowline and mid cleat spring line, those are holding your boat secure. I'm just talking about the rear starboard cross line that holds the stern to the finger dock. It's a way to keep the line low to avoid tripping.
 
jg300da said:
Simple fix for the lines; The port side line crossing in the back, eliminate it, it's not doing any work as any movement to the left is cushioned by the fenders. Remove the line cfrossing to the starboard cleat and reconnect it to the U-shaped tie down ring located on the lower right side by the HIN numbers with a stainless spring clip. Those are shaped roughly like a figure 8 and have a spring latch that opens. Take a short dock line (of matching color of course) and connect it to the spring clip and clip it to the tie down ring and bring it across to the dock cleat located on the port side. This will hold the boat against the finger dock, which is what you want and at the same time it will be low enough to avoid tripping over. The crisscross technique you are using along with a crisscross in front is typically used to hold a boat centered in it's slip. Since you don't have a finger or pole on the starboard side this is a moot point and makes the line on the port cleat useless. The spring clip also makes leaving and entering the slip much quicker. The line stays on the dock. When you return, just clip it on and you're done.
Beautiful boat..

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/105536/377%20710/0/spring%20clip/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=spring%20clip&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=spring%20clip&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=323&classNum=10904
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Seems like a great idea, assuming that the U-shaped tie down ring can take the continuous tugging (like the stern cleat can) in rough conditions.
 
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