oil extractor,which one?

[ProfitOfDoom]

I know this has probally been asked a 1,000 times,but which one is better?
The guy at my boat shop said he would recommend the quick silver extractor that screws right on to the dip stick,He said they work well and its about 20 bux cheaper then the other ones.
My other choice is the one with the "I think it was called a pella?" jug attached to it where you just pump and its draws out into the jug and holds it till your ready to pour into a waste container.
I guess what it really comes down to is what works better? The guy said the screw on dipstick works well and is faster because it uses the width of the dip stick to suck up the oil,where the other one uses a skinnier tube that goes in the dip stick.
Im leaning towards the screw on pump because it should be easier,but then It couldnt be used for anything else like the other one. I dont know what else I would use it for but you never know down the line.
So to all you winterize vets out there,if you had it all to do over again which one would you buy?

 

[Presentation]

I just faced this decision a few weeks ago.

I went with the mercury hand pump Pump# 802889A.

I got mine for $35 locally. I see them online for less.

I pumped the oil directly into an empty milk jug.

The power ones are nicer but I am using this thing once a year for two engines. Just pumping it slowly taking it easy it took about 5 minutes of pumping per engine. I had warmed the engines in advance.

After pumping out the oil I took the pump apart, cleaned it up with a few disposable shop towels and put it back in the small box it came in.

Inexpensive, simple, small to store, easy.

 

[320Bob]

I just faced this decision a few weeks ago.

I went with the mercury hand pump Pump# 802889A.

I got mine for $35 locally. I see them online for less.

I pumped the oil directly into an empty milk jug.

The power ones are nicer but I am looking at using this thing once year for two engines. Just pumping it slowly taking it easy it took about 5 minutes of pumping per engine. I had warmed the engines in advance.

After pumping out the oil I took the pump apart, cleaned it up with a few disposable shop towels and put it back in the small box it came in.

Inexpensive, simple, small to store, easy.

Does this work on your generator or do you use something else?

 

[tbirdvet]

I just changed my oil using the Shureflow pump on a bucket. Put tube down dipstick tube, connect pump to battery and turn on. Works well as long as the oil is hot/warm. Took about 5-6 minutes to pull out 7 qts. of oil.

 

[Bodkin Creek George]

I have used the one that Scott mentioned for years and I'm very happy with it.

 

[docofthebay]

I have the bucket one like sfergson. It's unbelievable how quickly it will empty an engine. It only takes less than one minute using the screw on adapter and just a couple of minutes more using the long thru the dipstick tube. Then it will reverse and dump out the old oil into the container of your choice. However, if you used the thru the dipstick long tube, take the skinny tube off first as it develops so much pressure that it will blow it off and spray oil everywhere, including all over the engine that you just previously were amazed that you drained all the oil out of with spilling a drop on it.

 

[carterchapman]

I have the Jabsco like Scott. Screw on for the engines, and use the tube attachment for the genny and trannys. Sucks my nine Qt engines out in 1 minute.

Jim at BOE sells them...

 

[LTD.330]

I have one of the Vacuum pump canisters like the second one in Scott's post, and it is the shiznit. Just be sure to remove the oil fill cap so the that air can get into the crankcase and the process goes quick < 10 min.

While the oil is draining into the canister, I swap out the oil filter. By the time I'm done with that the oil pump is about done.

 

[Presentation]

Does this work on your generator or do you use something else?

Nope. In my boat the generator is off the bottom of the bilge. The generator has a oil drain hose. I warm the generator; take the hose end off, stick it in a empty milk jug and as its draining I swap oil filters new for old. Put cap back on hose, refill with oil. Swap water separating fuel filter, clean flame arrestor, do some checking of belts and such per the manuals instructions then its time to clean the strainer then winterize it.

To winterize the generator I remove the thermostat, pull the hose off the sea cock, run 2 gallons of -50 RV antifreeze thru then shut the generator off.

Before all this on the last fuel fill up I add fuel stabilizer. I’m considering converting from Stabil to the product West recommends that has a fogging solution built in.

 

[tbirdvet]

Where did the other 2 quarts go? My 496 cu. in. engines hold 9 quarts each, I would think yours does also.

You are correct. I should of said about 8 qts., rest of oil is in the filter and some will always remain in the pan.

 

[BlewByYou88]

You guys are missing one point and only one of you caught it.

While I attended the Mickey Mouse Institution (MMI) we learned when it comes to the wonderful handy dandy screw on pumps, they don't get all the oil out, more importantly alot of the crap that settles in the bottom of the sump. You still need a draw straw to get the remaining oil out of the engine sump...but they do work great for getting 9/10's of the oil out.

I personally like the oil pump on the bucket with a draw straw.

Just my 2cents

 

[Sundancer]

I have the pump on the bucket and the tube that reaches down the dipstick. I can set it up and let it run while I do other things like the hot water tank or the freshwater system. Set and forget! When I'm done with both engines, I can do the lawnmower and the generator on the travel trailer too! Then I take it in to be recycled!

 

[BlewByYou88]

I KNEW IT!!!!



Those guys on the dock are going to rue the day they called me an obsessive compulsive pyscho.

:smt043That makes 2 of us! and I usually get a little more than a few ounces, but then I change my oil on a trailer and dip the bow to ensure the engines are level.

 

[Lazy Daze]

At the shop we have a few of the Jabsco units, also some ShurFlo's. We've had them for years and they work fine - they've certainly gotten a lot of use. Although, primarily we use a pressurized unit that we wheel around from boat to boat - it can hold about 80 gallons at a time before emptying it. Talk about getting spoiled! It costs about $1,000 so it's a little out of reach for me to purchase for home use :lol:

I've used the manual pump shown above... works fine.

I've used the cheapie 12v pumps... not real impressed with their longevity.

I just purchased a MityVac7201 http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_fee.asp Haven't used it yet, but it looks to be pretty nifty. I like that I can pump the old oil out under pressure, rather than having to pour it out.


One tip for those of you that change your oil on the hard or trailer. If you have an engine that is about 2001 and newer, it should have what Merc refers to as a "Quick Drain Hose Attachment"... However, if any of you have used this, you know darn well that it is anything but quick. Although, because it empties from the bottom of the oil pan, you do get pretty much everything out. Some of you may be able to reach this hose from inside the boat, too.

Temporarily remove the "plug" at the end of the hose. Replace it with a pipe-to-barb fitting (hand tight is plenty). Then, attach your oil-sucker-of-choice to the barb with a piece of rubber hose. Replace the plug and tighten. Replace the plug and tighten. Don't forget... replace the plug and tighten.

By the way, this "quick drain hose" can be added to any boat - it screws on in place of the oil pan drain plug.

 

[Bottom Line]

For you guys with the Jabsco's....do you use the small tube down the dipstick tube or the garden hose adapter? I tried the small tube down the dipstick last year, and it seemed like it suck out the oil faster, than with the garden hose adapter.

 

[BlewByYou88]

By the way, this "quick drain hose" can be added to any boat - it screws on in place of the oil pan drain plug.

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You missed the part where, in order to install it, you pretty much have to pull the engine to access the drain plug to install this hose.

 

[Lazy Daze]

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You missed the part where, in order to install it, you pretty much have to pull the engine to access the drain plug to install this hose.

Depends on the boat. On many it's actually pretty easy. On others...:smt101

 

[Lazy Daze]

Bottom Line and Scott,

I'd say stick with the garden hose adapter. This way you're using a larger diameter tube (the actual dipstick tube) to suck out the oil, rather than the smaller diameter tube you stick inside the dipstick.

At the shop, when a boat doesn't have the "quick drain hose", we don't even take the time to screw onto the garden hose adapter. We just slip a rubber hose over the end of the dipstick. It doesn't even need to be tightened down. Just use a hose that fits snugly.

 

[rcknecht]

I did some research on this last year and found that the Pela oil extractor had the highest customer satisfaction because of its ease of use and simplicity... I bought one for about $40 and have no complaints... Here is a picture of it: