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You must need to be a midget to even get close to those plugs. Has anybody changed them before? If so, any tips on getting those three plugs out?
:mad:
 
Not on this boat, and I have diesel. That said I want to test and possibly replace the glow plugs, I think they are on the seaboard side of the genny.

I changed the three spark plugs on the Westerbeke generator on my 2001 Regal 3780 many years ago. The generator was in the far aft with the plugs facing aft. It took me about 20 minutes to crawl up in there, maybe 10 to change the plugs, then another 25 to 30 minutes to figure out how to get back out.. one of the first times I had mild claustrophobic anxiety on a boat. Like "What if I can't get back out?"
 
Looks like that’s what I am faced with….
 
When the marina worked on mine, seems like they unbolted the genny, and rotated it. They did that to work on the fuel pump. I am assuming something similar may be necessary

You must need to be a midget to even get close to those plugs. Has anybody changed them before? If so, any tips on getting those three plugs out?
:mad:
 
When the marina worked on mine, seems like they unbolted the genny, and rotated it. They did that to work on the fuel pump. I am assuming something similar may be necessary
That had crossed my mind but I thought no way that could be easier. I’ll check it out tomorrow.
 
The fuel capacity spec for my 2001 380 is 275 gallons. I assume that's diesel or gas? Is that 137.5 gallons in each tank?

I will be doing a shock to my tanks hoping to alleviate a suspected algae problem. I need to know approximately how much of each treatment to put in.
 
The fuel capacity spec for my 2001 380 is 275 gallons. I assume that's diesel or gas? Is that 137.5 gallons in each tank?

I will be doing a shock to my tanks hoping to alleviate a suspected algae problem. I need to know approximately how much of each treatment to put in.
Mine are split evenly, we don’t cheat those thirsty 454’s and everybody stays happy.
 
So just to be clear this is my Westerbeke 7.0 BCGB w/ 227 hours.
This is our third season with the 2001 380DA and we put on half of those hours. The generator was serviced in 2020-21 winter layup by the marina, however I am seeing now that plugs did not get changed. The belts, zincs, impeller, fuel filters were serviced at that time. Oil & Filter were changed at the end of last season.
Thanks and a Big Shout Out to @370Dancer, changing the plugs and cleaning the arrester did the trick.
To save the next guy some anguish and cussing I have a few tips;
Pay someone to do it!
No, but all kidding aside it ain’t easy especially for us bigger guys (I’m six foot) and not as agile as I used to be. The genny is aft on the starboard side and the spark plugs are facing seaboard (see attached pic)
IMG_3668.jpeg
you basically have to work with your left hand as the plugs are located between the manifold and the cylinder head. If you have long fingers, after you bust your knuckle pulling the plug boot off, you can just touch the top of the plug reaching down between. The plugs (there are 3) are also angled into the heads. Not great when you have about 2 inches to work with. Use 3/8” drive 13/16” socket for the plug and you will definitely need to use a swivel with about a 6-8” extension. After you get them out you got to put them back in. Another tip; use a spark plug socket that grips the plug well as you don’t want to drop it. Smear a little anti-seize on the threads for next time, fold up a small shop rag and position it inside the slot on the manifold where you will insert the plug. This helps guide it into the area on the head where the plug threads into the head instead of dropping straight down. Use a little boot grease on the wires if you have some. Patience and breaks are essential for this job.
Someone on an older thread had started a cross reference for Westerbeke consumables and it listed NGK #BPR6ES as the cross so I went with it. When I removed the old plugs they were
NGK #BPR5ES. I am assuming this not to be a problem since somebody obviously used that plug. Genny fired right up and ran smoothly with no sign of fuel sheen or back soot belching out.
IMG_3670.jpeg
Figure about 2 hour job…..oh and did I forget to mention you have to tear the back of the boat apart to gain access. Removing seats, cushions, and the starboard floor panel. Hope this helps someone down the road. :)
 
So just to be clear this is my Westerbeke 7.0 BCGB w/ 227 hours.
This is our third season with the 2001 380DA and we put on half of those hours. The generator was serviced in 2020-21 winter layup by the marina, however I am seeing now that plugs did not get changed. The belts, zincs, impeller, fuel filters were serviced at that time. Oil & Filter were changed at the end of last season.
Thanks and a Big Shout Out to @370Dancer, changing the plugs and cleaning the arrester did the trick.
To save the next guy some anguish and cussing I have a few tips;
Pay someone to do it!
No, but all kidding aside it ain’t easy especially for us bigger guys (I’m six foot) and not as agile as I used to be. The genny is aft on the starboard side and the spark plugs are facing seaboard (see attached pic)
View attachment 146063
you basically have to work with your left hand as the plugs are located between the manifold and the cylinder head. If you have long fingers, after you bust your knuckle pulling the plug boot off, you can just touch the top of the plug reaching down between. The plugs (there are 3) are also angled into the heads. Not great when you have about 2 inches to work with. Use 3/8” drive 13/16” socket for the plug and you will definitely need to use a swivel with about a 6-8” extension. After you get them out you got to put them back in. Another tip; use a spark plug socket that grips the plug well as you don’t want to drop it. Smear a little anti-seize on the threads for next time, fold up a small shop rag and position it inside the slot on the manifold where you will insert the plug. This helps guide it into the area on the head where the plug threads into the head instead of dropping straight down. Use a little boot grease on the wires if you have some. Patience and breaks are essential for this job.
Someone on an older thread had started a cross reference for Westerbeke consumables and it listed NGK #BPR6ES as the cross so I went with it. When I removed the old plugs they were
NGK #BPR5ES. I am assuming this not to be a problem since somebody obviously used that plug. Genny fired right up and ran smoothly with no sign of fuel sheen or back soot belching out.
View attachment 146065
Figure about 2 hour job…..oh and did I forget to mention you have to tear the back of the boat apart to gain access. Removing seats, cushions, and the starboard floor panel. Hope this helps someone down the road. :)
Looks exactly like the diesel version of mine and same exact location. While you were in there you should have replaced the light bulb in your engine compartment light with LED. Easy enough to do later though. You won't have to worry about touching that hot plastic cover ever again.
 
Looks exactly like the diesel version of mine and same exact location. While you were in there you should have replaced the light bulb in your engine compartment light with LED. Easy enough to do later though. You won't have to worry about touching that hot plastic cover ever again.

Good catch and a great idea which is why I already thought about it and did just that last fall when I changed the oil and filter. I’m hoping I don’t need to go into that area again anytime soon. PIA!!!!
I converted 90% of the lamps in the boat. I have a few more fingers pinchers to deal with yet.
 
Not sure how that reply got screwed up but here it is;
“Good catch and a great idea which is why I already thought about it and did just that last fall when I changed the oil and filter. I’m hoping I don’t need to go into that area again anytime soon. PIA!!!!
I converted 90% of the lamps in the boat. I have a few more fingers pinchers to deal with yet.”
 
Does the gas version of this boat have the reverso oil pump system? I used mine for the first time for both engines and generator a few weeks ago, absolutely loved it.
 
Does the gas version of this boat have the reverso oil pump system? I used mine for the first time for both engines and generator a few weeks ago, absolutely loved it.
Not sure, how would I know?
 
So just to be clear this is my Westerbeke 7.0 BCGB w/ 227 hours.
This is our third season with the 2001 380DA and we put on half of those hours. The generator was serviced in 2020-21 winter layup by the marina, however I am seeing now that plugs did not get changed. The belts, zincs, impeller, fuel filters were serviced at that time. Oil & Filter were changed at the end of last season.
Thanks and a Big Shout Out to @370Dancer, changing the plugs and cleaning the arrester did the trick.
To save the next guy some anguish and cussing I have a few tips;
Pay someone to do it!
No, but all kidding aside it ain’t easy especially for us bigger guys (I’m six foot) and not as agile as I used to be. The genny is aft on the starboard side and the spark plugs are facing seaboard (see attached pic)
View attachment 146063
you basically have to work with your left hand as the plugs are located between the manifold and the cylinder head. If you have long fingers, after you bust your knuckle pulling the plug boot off, you can just touch the top of the plug reaching down between. The plugs (there are 3) are also angled into the heads. Not great when you have about 2 inches to work with. Use 3/8” drive 13/16” socket for the plug and you will definitely need to use a swivel with about a 6-8” extension. After you get them out you got to put them back in. Another tip; use a spark plug socket that grips the plug well as you don’t want to drop it. Smear a little anti-seize on the threads for next time, fold up a small shop rag and position it inside the slot on the manifold where you will insert the plug. This helps guide it into the area on the head where the plug threads into the head instead of dropping straight down. Use a little boot grease on the wires if you have some. Patience and breaks are essential for this job.
Someone on an older thread had started a cross reference for Westerbeke consumables and it listed NGK #BPR6ES as the cross so I went with it. When I removed the old plugs they were
NGK #BPR5ES. I am assuming this not to be a problem since somebody obviously used that plug. Genny fired right up and ran smoothly with no sign of fuel sheen or back soot belching out.
View attachment 146065
Figure about 2 hour job…..oh and did I forget to mention you have to tear the back of the boat apart to gain access. Removing seats, cushions, and the starboard floor panel. Hope this helps someone down the road. :)
Are you saying that your zinc in that generator was replaced in the winter of 20-21?
 
Have a question about the operation of the engine bay blowers. Replaced both blowers (tested directly with battery) and ducts. Problem is they don't turn on.
Both switches in the engine bay on and the switch in salon panel is on and solid green. Also checked the salon switch with each of the engine bay switched off. The salon switch blinks if one of the engine bay switches is off.
Pressed the switch at the helm but nothing happens.
Before I start tracing wires, am I missing something? Again, I know the new blowers work when directly attached to a battery source.
IMG_0738 copy.jpeg
 
Have a question about the operation of the engine bay blowers. Replaced both blowers (tested directly with battery) and ducts. Problem is they don't turn on.
Both switches in the engine bay on and the switch in salon panel is on and solid green. Also checked the salon switch with each of the engine bay switched off. The salon switch blinks if one of the engine bay switches is off.
Pressed the switch at the helm but nothing happens.
Before I start tracing wires, am I missing something? Again, I know the new blowers work when directly attached to a battery source.
View attachment 146102


TTMOTT to the rescue. Appears that with the fire extinguisher not installed, the blowers will not operate.

Your boat's blowers are operated by a "blower control module" and that module is provided power from both battery banks. There should be a circuit breaker for the port blower and another circuit breaker for the starboard blower.
The blower on and off switch only operates the blower control module.
The second part of all of this is the fire suppression system will disable the blower control module should the fire system discharge.
However as one side works and the other doesn't it is not the fire system that is the issue. It is either the module has failed or the circuit breaker for that side has tripped.
Or, of course, there is a wiring issue....

I'll have to install the new fire extinguisher bottle and see if that solves the 'problem'.
 

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