Official 330 Sundancer Thread

The hose broke on the transom shower our 96 330DA recently. I had a look today to see how hard it is going to be to change it and looking to starboard through the transom locker I saw a grey carpeted box built around the mixer tap and outlet.

Before I start making a simple job more difficult than it should be, does anyone know how to remove the protective box? I think I can see a metal bracket at the very far (starboard end) but I suspect there are more things holding it in than one bracket.

Are there any tips for changing the hose (it broke right at the mixer end)? I may update the mixer too if it's not too hard.
 
There has to be at least two attachment points, otherwise it would just flop around.

I always try to remember the piece of advice my Dad told me: "They had to put it together somehow". Meaning, if you can figure out how they assembled it the first place you can reverse engineer how to disassemble it. Though, sometimes that means it was a one-way assembly and you'll have to (relatively) destroy something to take it apart.
 
Helllo all, my 1993 330 we just purchased a few months ago and we love love it. That said I am having an issue with our Quicksilver gen. It's shutting down itself after it runs a bit. Not sure if the internal heat sensor is shutting it down or its chocking itself into a stall. The other day while checking it out , gave the gen a rest after it shutdown, wife had noticed a pumping clicking noise and asked about it, it was a selinoid clicking that's wired to the fuel pump on gen. Not sure why this would keep pumping even after I hit the off switch on main panel and on unit itself. I eventualy had to disconnect battery to gen to get it to shut off. Any opinions or knowledge on this would be appreciated. Thanks everyone. By the way I love this site. Everyone is so friendly and willing to share. Thanks again.


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splashed Saturday...Fairlee Creek this weekend. Let summer offically begin.
 

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Launched this past Sat. Feels good to be floating. Spent Sat night onboard with my four yr old. He's been asking for weeks when can we sleep on the boat. I think I have a future boater in the making here...

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I just removed mine because of a water leak. There are 6 or 8 screws(way too many) holding the carpeted box in place. I used an angle head drill and a phillip head bit to speed up the removal. The starboard wall ones are kinda hard to reach. It's really simple to change out the hose once you get the box off. Check your other fittings while your in there for leaks.
 
Thanks for that... I gave it a good tug and it felt like they built the boat around that little carpeted box. I can see when it was built they probably installed it before the rear bolsters were fitted. That would be the easiest access but I am not going to remove that anytime soon.
 
Fruition said:
Helllo all, my 1993 330 we just purchased a few months ago and we love love it. That said I am having an issue with our Quicksilver gen. It's shutting down itself after it runs a bit. Not sure if the internal heat sensor is shutting it down or its chocking itself into a stall. The other day while checking it out , gave the gen a rest after it shutdown, wife had noticed a pumping clicking noise and asked about it, it was a selinoid clicking that's wired to the fuel pump on gen. Not sure why this would keep pumping even after I hit the off switch on main panel and on unit itself. I eventualy had to disconnect battery to gen to get it to shut off. Any opinions or knowledge on this would be appreciated. Thanks everyone. By the way I love this site. Everyone is so friendly and willing to share. Thanks again.


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I am not familiar with the quicksilver gens, but like most others it will have a fuel shut off solenoid that closes when the gen is not running. That is probably what was clicking on and off and I don't think it should be. However.....

I have a Kohler 5CZ which has an electronic control box (it's really only simple relay logic) and I guess the quicksilver is the similar. When the box shuts down the generator due to an alarm condition it does not release all the relay interlocks, some remain powered. Pressing the "off" switch does shut them all off. I also installed a battery isolation switch for the gen battery (for safety I don't like the idea of a battery I can't disconnect quickly).

As for your shut down issue, is it stopping dead or is it surging and spluttering before dying? If it just stops dead you have an alarm shutting it down. Check the water flow, etc.

Marine generators have a circuit that senses the output voltage is within limits and if it drops too low they shut off. Camping generators and so forth sort of bog down and recover once the load is removed but marine gensets switch off as soon as the voltage is outside certain tolerances. So, is it being overloaded or is the engine not able to generate full power?

One more thing, again based on Kohler experience is the choke gets sticky. The linkages need to be lubed and make sure the choke is fully opening. If not it will bog down, run rough and rich and drop out/shut down under load.

Hope this helps.
 
Fruition said:
Helllo all, my 1993 330 we just purchased a few months ago and we love love it. That said I am having an issue with our Quicksilver gen. It's shutting down itself after it runs a bit. Not sure if the internal heat sensor is shutting it down or its chocking itself into a stall. The other day while checking it out , gave the gen a rest after it shutdown, wife had noticed a pumping clicking noise and asked about it, it was a selinoid clicking that's wired to the fuel pump on gen. Not sure why this would keep pumping even after I hit the off switch on main panel and on unit itself. I eventualy had to disconnect battery to gen to get it to shut off. Any opinions or knowledge on this would be appreciated. Thanks everyone. By the way I love this site. Everyone is so friendly and willing to share. Thanks again.


I have the same boat and gerator, it was made by Generac. Anyway you might check the fuel filter, it is inline from the Starboard fuel tank. Make sure the gasket is replaced correctly or it will leak air and this may cause your problems. Might also want to search this board I know this has come up before. BTW parts are easily available for that model from partsfortechs.com, they are really helpful over the phone
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Re: Official 330 Sundancer Thread, 1994 330 height with arch

All this generator talk, I thought I'd throw out a genny question. I fired up my generator this weekend for the first time of the season just to make sure everything worked... Started right up actually and ran great, but it was not putting any voltage to my panel. And yes I did switch the panel over from shore power. Nothing. Any thoughts on what to check first? I'm guessing a breaker could be in need of flipping or hopefully something easy like that.

Thanks in advance!
 
There's probably breakers on the gennie itself. There will be dc and ac breakers. I often bump them when torturing myself trying to maintain and check stuff in the engine bay.
 
Thanks all for every tidbit of info. We will be there tonight so first thing tomorrow ill be getting to that genny. Might have duel issues. One being getting too hot, the other is the fuel relay switch mounted right next to the in line fuel filter. Yes it kept clicking and don't think it should have been after several attempts at manual shutdown. Thank-you to everyone who responded. I will give an updatevafter the weekend.


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Hello 330 crowd,

I am getting down to some serious shopping to get back on the water. Looking at either a 1998 - 2001 310 or a 330 V drive boat. I do have a few in the sights right now. Is there anything special I look out for or check? I have browsed the forums but didn't pick up much specifically.

Looks like I am looking at the 7.4 engines, should I look for a boat with the MPI engines? I figure it would be way underpowered with the 5.7L engines.

Thanks,

Steve
 
Steve S said:
Hello 330 crowd,

I am getting down to some serious shopping to get back on the water. Looking at either a 1998 - 2001 310 or a 330 V drive boat. I do have a few in the sights right now. Is there anything special I look out for or check? I have browsed the forums but didn't pick up much specifically.

Looks like I am looking at the 7.4 engines, should I look for a boat with the MPI engines? I figure it would be way underpowered with the 5.7L engines.

Thanks,

Steve
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Can only speak to the 330.

Original 5.7's won't cut it. The newer ones might. 7.4's are the standard. 6.2's are a nice replacement for the 7.4. The 330 is terribly undertabbed. Easy fix. MPI is better than Carbed in terms of fuel consumption. The ER designer needs to be hung. Access to the interior side of either engine is nuts, as is access to the port engine raw water pump, the AC through hull and house battery bank.

The newer centerline berth is NOT a queen unless you are a very short queen. My friends centerline "queen" berth ends at mid calf for me. I'm 6'4". The angled berth on the 98 and below 330 is more accommodating. 4 blade props will handle better than 3 unless you can find a great prop shop. They can do wonders. The props should not be more than 16" in diameter on the 98-99 model due to clearance and vibration issues. I cannot speak to other year models.

That's a start. HTH.
 
Would anyone know where the light indicator for the waste tank is??? i have searched high and low and cannot find it. We have a 1993 330 DA . We have a vacu flush system and the morning after we spent the night on the lake found out it wouldnt flush....yuck!!! After a short search found the tank was full just by looking at the tank itself. We then pumped out at the marina which was a first for us. The tank flexed quite a bit ! Is this normal?? it was bowed out slightly when full after pumping out it haD such a vacuum to the pump it seemed like it was caving in on itself. ?? Wouldnt a vent prevent this?? Now.. after we emptied it still no vacuum. The pump will not operate but didnt hear it operate that morning we tried to flush before realizing tank was full. I do know I have a slight leak because i could heare the pump periodically operate through the night. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Also to update my last post, I did get my genny running smoothly, just fuel filter issues. Thank you all!
 
Tank indicator on Saint Max is on the electrical panel. They appear to have changed from 1993. Here is a pix from the web of a 93 electric panel.

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Here is the URL if the pix is too small: http://www.cumberlandsearay.com/images/cumberlandsearay/VP2156121_24_large.jpg

The system has to be turned on at the 12 volt panel for it to work on Saint Max. IIRC, I have to depress a button to show the tank level. It's on of those things I teach myself every year! YMMV.

WRT your holding tank collapsing on itself, it sounds like a clogged vent line. Trace the line from the top of the tank. Mine goes to a filter under the port gunwale. If the filter is wet, it's ruined. I bought a new one because I was out of time and needed to get underway for a weekend trip. The old one is rebuilt and in storage as a spare.

HTH.
 
Dpmulvey Thx for the pics, my panel is very similar,but I do have an actual toggle to the left of the waste management indicator. This operates the pump to pump overboard, which I know is illegal from my location . Is the indicator to the right of this switch the one that is supposed to tell me when full, because all its read so far is " power ". I will also get to the filter to check it out. Also, can you provide me with that URL again, I don't think it posted. Thx again for your help.

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Also, I haven't even found any kind of switch onboard in regards of having to power up the flush system. It's always been live since the day I tried the toilet.

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Here's the link again.

Here is the URL if the pix is too small: http://www.cumberlandsearay.com/imag...1_24_large.jpg

I'm surprised there is not a switch for the vacuflush power somewhere. I would think you would have to be able to de-energize it in order to perform maintenance. Do you have a pix of the electrical panels from your boat?

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Also, I haven't even found any kind of switch onboard in regards of having to power up the flush system. It's always been live since the day I tried the toilet.

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Sorry for the delay in the response. Checked on boat last night and loss of vacuum pump not working seems to have corrected itself. May have been a slight clog that cleared ? Anyway I still cNnot find any indicator in head or on breaker panel. I also seem to not have any on/ off switch to de energize flush system. Here is my breaker.uploadfromtaptalk1337880760910.jpguploadfromtaptalk1337880760910.jpg

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