Official 19SPX/21SPX/SPX190/SPX210 Thread

[Beaver Lake AR]

No worries. But just because there's a video of a certain dealer doing it, doesn't mean it's right I tend to, by default, be very wary of anything of Youtube.

The best bet, like you said "better safe than sorry", is to go by the manufacturer's recommendations.

As I noted above, there is a sticker right on the pylon. There may/may not have been one on earlier models... it may have taken a few "instances" to figure out it's not a good idea. I've personally seen what happens to the boat on a 210SPO. Not pretty.

Hi,

I am a little late to the game here. The video @Phil&Chris mentioned is an official SeaRay official video that has been around a while; it is not a dealer test video.

This video has been around a while, and it is one of my favorites since it highlights the fishing "Multisport" package that I have.

Anyway, towards the end, the video includes kids being pulled on a tube.

Right or wrong, I have been pulling kids on a tube for four seasons with no problems. By policy, I never tow more than two as I feel that is safer (edited: two kids, one tube...never two tubes).

Have fun.

 

[Lazy Daze]

Hi,

I am a little late to the game here. The video @Phil&Chris mentioned is an official SeaRay official video that has been around a while; it is not a dealer test video.


This video has been around a while, and it is one of my favorites since it highlights the fishing "Multisport" package that I have.

Anyway, towards the end, the video includes kids being pulled on a tube.

Right or wrong, I have been pulling kids on a tube for four seasons with no problems. By policy, I never tow more than two as I feel that is safer.

Have fun.

I get it that you may be looking for a reason to justify not having to spend more money. But as we (briefly) discussed above, a video (no matter who made it) of it being used that way does NOT mean it is correct. Especially if it's an older video that may have been made before it was figured out to be a bad idea.

As I also briefly alluded to above, I have personally seen the damage caused by pulling a tube. It was bad enough that it gave me the shivers - since "just a little bit more damge" would have caused metal objects to be hurling at high speed directly towards the kids on the tube. I have since heard of other similar instances.

I'm glad to hear that no one has been hurt the way you are doing it... but it only takes once (maybe too much water caught in the tube, for example) for this situation to take a drastic turn for the worse.

In the end, it's your boat and your family and you can do as you wish. But, as also noted above, OFFICIALLY it is a "no-no" from Sea Ray.

I don't mean for any of this to sound harsh as admitedly, you may not have known about this before. But you're playing with the safety of kids and family and I take that very seriously.

 

[Beaver Lake AR]

Ok @Lazy Daze, you made your point on the technical merits. But respectfully, let's avoid comments like "I get it that you may be looking for a reason to justify not having to spend more money", or "playing with the safety of kids and family and I take that very seriously". Our ski bars are constructed like any others. If it can't tow a tube I'd be reluctant to use it for a skier.

I also know my 2015 SPX 190 OB is rated for 11 people. I never put more than 6.

Looking at the Turboswing. I'd like to get that pylon out of the way anyway since I fish.

 

[GypsmJim]

Ok @Lazy Daze,Our ski bars are constructed like any others. If it can't tow a tube I'd be reluctant to use it for a skier. I'd like to get that pylon out of the way anyway since I fish.

Maybe someone should do the math. My guess is that the stress forces of pulling a tube are astronomically higher than pulling a skier on 2 little slats.

Besides, what is a tube? A little donut with a 6 year old, or a huge sled with 4 fat people on it? If you say it is capable of pulling a tube, its a sure fact that somebody will go big.

I fish too, but I love the pylon. I sit on the sunpad and have something to hold onto when the waves come by.

 

[Beaver Lake AR]

Ha! Forgot about the extra grab handle functionality.

I am very likely to get the Turboswing for safety and the simple fact that it appears to perform better.

I'm a bit intimidated about drilling into the transom. But I felt the same when when I installed my bow speakers.

 

[GypsmJim]

Ha! Forgot about the extra grab handle functionality.

I am very likely to get the Turboswing for safety and the simple fact that it appears to perform better.

I'm a bit intimidated about drilling into the transom. But I felt the same when when I installed my bow speakers.

Looks like an easy installation and the bolts are above the waterline. Be sure to seal with 5200 just to be sure.

 

[Phil&Chris]

I'm kind of surprised, but very glad, that the "ski pole" thread gained a new life. I think that all of the great info and perspectives that have been voiced let me figure out a possible sequence that helps to explain all the conflicting data about tubing off of the ski pole. I think that when the SPX model was initiated, Sea Ray intended for it to be used for tubing. Thus, the early videos made in the 2015 timeframe. However, they envisioned it being used to tow a kid on a donut and didn't really conceive of the four fat guys on a big sled option. After some unfortunate pole failures/lawsuits, Sea Ray decided to cover themselves by adding warnings against any tubing and attaching them to the poles(I still don't know why mine didn't have one). I might be wrong, but that's the most logical argument that I can come up with. I still think that using the stern eyes is the safest option since there is no actual data that I know of concerning the load bearing capacity of the pole. Thanks, again, for all of the valuable inputs. Cheers! Phil

 

[Redneck71]

I left the black plugs in. Since the hole shot is instant I see no need to ventilate.

Thanks for the reply, I agree this boat jumps up on plane with little effort. Like you my tach read about 1000rpm high(according to vassal view mobile)because the switch on the back of the tach was set to 10 pole instead of 12 pole. Sea Ray did a really good job with this boat and coming from a single straight inboard these new 4 stroke are such a big leap from the 80‘s and 90‘s 2 strokes.

 

[Redneck71]

When I was looking at new 190’s there was a sticker on the ski pole not to use it for tubing. The previous owners of my boat bent my ski pole from towing an Air head hot dog that came with the boat, no damage to the boat. Probably won’t be doing any water sports off this boat it’s just going to be used for relaxing and snorkeling in the intercoastal.

 

[Rod Sangster]

Got started on the audio upgrade to the base system tonight. Step 1, add bow speakers. I decided to grab another pair of Rockford Fosgate 6.5" Coax RM0652 to match the factory cockpit speakers. (FYI, a seller on ebay accepted my offer of $75 w/ free shipping for a new set) Other than tools and tape, nothing else was required as Sea Ray was nice enough to include the upgrade prewiring connected to the stock head unit, including standard female spade terminals. Taped them off, found the center, drew a circle, cut em out, and screwed them in. (make sure you use a shop vac for dust control)

Very worthwhile 1-2 hour, $75 upgrade for anyone with the base 2 speaker system.

Excuse the poor pics, getting dark by the time I finished up.

What did you cut out the holes with?

 

[Lazy Daze]

What did you cut out the holes with?

You can cut holes with a hole saw or Dremel with the side-cutting bit. Depends on what you have and how steady your hand is. Personally, I prefer the Dremel. Don't start too crazy with the hole saw - you don't want to chip the gel. Some like to start in reverse with the hole saw - I've never found the need - just control your pressure and keep it light till you get through the gel.

 

[BostonBoatGuy]

Hey all! Just purchased a 2023 210 SPX. A few questions: 1) It didn't come with the digital dash, so I am looking to have the dealer install a Simrad NSX, I would prefer having all the old style gauges taken out and the Simrad installed in its place, rather then having the Simrad on a RAM mount next to the dash. The dealer said this can be done but is a big deal and will be costly. Do these boats not come with the wiring harness from the engine pre installed for a Simrad? 2) It appears that there is no bow block off cushion that you can slide in below the windshield. Anyone know if there is an aftermarket solution? 3) I'd like to have 2 mounts installed for a table, any suggestions on this? 4) Recommendations on installing a marine radio and where to mount the antenna? Thanks!

 

[Lazy Daze]

Boston, a "cushion" to block the wind was something they never used. But on some years there was piece of canvas that you snapped into the companionway. You could certainly make that. Or, just put the bow cover on (or buy JUST that piece if you currently have the full cover).

Table mounts... you can get the ones Sea Ray uses that mount on a vertical surface... like Garelick/Attwood... Todd... Taco. There are numerous.

 

[GypsmJim]

Hey all! Just purchased a 2023 210 SPX. A few questions: 1) It didn't come with the digital dash, so I am looking to have the dealer install a Simrad NSX, I would prefer having all the old style gauges taken out and the Simrad installed in its place, rather then having the Simrad on a RAM mount next to the dash. The dealer said this can be done but is a big deal and will be costly. Do these boats not come with the wiring harness from the engine pre installed for a Simrad? 2) It appears that there is no bow block off cushion that you can slide in below the windshield. Anyone know if there is an aftermarket solution? 3) I'd like to have 2 mounts installed for a table, any suggestions on this? 4) Recommendations on installing a marine radio and where to mount the antenna? Thanks!

1. We custom ordered the digital dash because That's what I wanted. If you didn't have a Simrad then there would not be the proper transducer nor the wiring. I've customized every boat I ever had by myself, and knowing the work needed to drill a hole n the dash and routing all the wires on a completed hull, I can believe how expensive that would be. All the current wiring is there, but it would be compatible with your current equipment, not the Simrad.

If it were me I'd install a Vesselview myself. Download it to your cellphone and use a Ram Mount on one side of the dash for your phone. Then, Buy a Raymarine and install it on a mount on the other side. My Boston Whaler's Raymarine outshines the Sinrad every day.

2. When I bought my SPX I had the dealer's Canvas Maker install a Sunbrella walk-thru curtain, and a Bimini Front Curtain. I think about 150 bucks for the walk-thru and the wife sure likes it on cool days.

3. Can't help with mounts. I bought a collapsible table and it stores nicely under the deck.

4. I had marine radios before. The antennas are a pita. If you have the deluxe upholstery package I think you're outtaluck. No place to put it. If you have the std. interior, the only flat surface is on the sidewall below the glove box. Mount the antenna on the port side next to the windshield and rout the wire through the storage compartment. Nevertheless, if you have the full mooring cover, it won't fit underneath the cover. If you don't it will always be in the way anyway. For my SPX I simply bought a high end hand-held.

 

[BostonBoatGuy]

Boston, a "cushion" to block the wind was something they never used. But on some years there was piece of canvas that you snapped into the companionway. You could certainly make that. Or, just put the bow cover on (or buy JUST that piece if you currently have the full cover).

Table mounts... you can get the ones Sea Ray uses that mount on a vertical surface... like Garelick/Attwood... Todd... Taco. There are numerous.

Thanks, I'll take a look!

 

[BostonBoatGuy]

1. We custom ordered the digital dash because That's what I wanted. If you didn't have a Simrad then there would not be the proper transducer nor the wiring. I've customized every boat I ever had by myself, and knowing the work needed to drill a hole n the dash and routing all the wires on a completed hull, I can believe how expensive that would be. All the current wiring is there, but it would be compatible with your current equipment, not the Simrad.

If it were me I'd install a Vesselview myself. Download it to your cellphone and use a Ram Mount on one side of the dash for your phone. Then, Buy a Raymarine and install it on a mount on the other side. My Boston Whaler's Raymarine outshines the Sinrad every day.

2. When I bought my SPX I had the dealer's Canvas Maker install a Sunbrella walk-thru curtain, and a Bimini Front Curtain. I think about 150 bucks for the walk-thru and the wife sure likes it on cool days.

3. Can't help with mounts. I bought a collapsible table and it stores nicely under the deck.

4. I had marine radios before. The antennas are a pita. If you have the deluxe upholstery package I think you're outtaluck. No place to put it. If you have the std. interior, the only flat surface is on the sidewall below the glove box. Mount the antenna on the port side next to the windshield and rout the wire through the storage compartment. Nevertheless, if you have the full mooring cover, it won't fit underneath the cover. If you don't it will always be in the way anyway. For my SPX I simply bought a high end hand-held.


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Thanks! Why does the Raymarine outshine the Simrad?

 

[GypsmJim]

Thanks! Why does the Raymarine outshine the Simrad?

It has better features, better graphics, the screen is sharper and the interface is more intuitive.

After using a $99 Humminbird on a tinny, when I upgraded to a Whaler with a factory Raymarine I was sold for life. Of course the price difference was something else.....LOL. A year later I was somewhat disappointed with the Simrad on the Searay. It's a fine unit, don't get me wrong, but knowing what I know now I would have done an aftermarket install myself.

One of the selling points was the 'ducer installed on the keel. Nevertheless, I've put on quite a few on the transom with equally good results.

And finally, just my personal opinion.

 

[ttmott]

Hey folks - A friend of mine is about to pull the trigger on a 22 SPX210 with a 200 on it. The owner wants $56K for it.
It seems pretty well optioned with a bimini and good trailer. No ski pole though. The boat has less than 150 hours and still several years on warrantee that my friend says is transferable. Owner says and pictures reveal in very good shape. The boat is not local so she needs to look at it still.
She is an avid water skier so a pole needs to be installed if possible.

Your thoughts would be appreciated if a good ski platform and value.

Thanks!

 

[GypsmJim]

Hey folks - A friend of mine is about to pull the trigger on a 22 SPX210 with a 200 on it. The owner wants $56K for it.
It seems pretty well optioned with a bimini and good trailer. No ski pole though. The boat has less than 150 hours and still several years on warrantee that my friend says is transferable. Owner says and pictures reveal in very good shape. The boat is not local so she needs to look at it still.
She is an avid water skier so a pole needs to be installed if possible.

Your thoughts would be appreciated if a good ski platform and value.

Thanks!

Ski poles are only on outboard models. An I/O doesn't need one. The ski tow fitting is mounted lower, flush on the hull.

 

[ttmott]

Ski poles are only on outboard models. An I/O doesn't need one. The ski tow fitting is mounted lower, flush on the hull.

It is an outboard - 200 merc.