New dock neighbors, etiquette question

Further up the dock from me someone had their electrical cord, water hose, and an old anchor strewn into the walkway. It was there for a week. Several people complained to the office to have it addressed but no action.
I finally had enough because my cart had to be pulled over the stuff every time I went to the boat and called the general manager. I laid it out as a liability issue for safe egress and that if someone fell and was hurt it would be on the marina as they were notified of the hazard. Taken care of within an hour....
 
Rules are there so everyone can enjoy the facility. Some will take advantage of others if allowed to do so and the problem will just continue to grow unless corrective action is taken. The longer the situation exists, the more difficult it will be to correct. I would be a pest to the management until there is resolution.
 
I have no patience for these kind of slobs. They're well aware that everyone else is keeping up with their shit and they couldn't care less about how others think. So I don't care about what they think either and will say something. Kind and first and ruder later.

I had one of these POS next to me in my old marina. He'd party all weekend and then leave big garbage bags full of bottles and cans all over the dock between us. Use my hose and leave it unraveled and dangling in the water. Finally had enough and started throwing any trash left into his cockpit. And I mean throwing, not placing. We weren't best buds after that but his crap wasn't on my side anymore.

Got lucky when he accidently discharged a shotgun inside the cabin of his 30' boat one night and got evicted. I often take great pleasure in thinking about what it must have been like in that tiny cabin when that gun went off.
 
copb8tx said:
I have no patience for these kind of slobs. They're well aware that everyone else is keeping up with their shit and they couldn't care less about how others think. So I don't care about what they think either and will say something. Kind and first and ruder later.

I had one of these POS next to me in my old marina. He'd party all weekend and then leave big garbage bags full of bottles and cans all over the dock between us. Use my hose and leave it unraveled and dangling in the water. Finally had enough and started throwing any trash left into his cockpit. And I mean throwing, not placing. We weren't best buds after that but his crap wasn't on my side anymore.

Got lucky when he accidently discharged a shotgun inside the cabin of his 30' boat one night and got evicted. I often take great pleasure in thinking about what it must have been like in that tiny cabin when that gun went off.
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Holy crap that’s funny as shit….. what a mess that would have made…. That is crazy
 
Used to have an idiot on my dock in MD that kept a couple of old batteries stored right next to a couple of gasoline tanks on the dock. The marina ended up evicting him because he wouldn't clean them up (among other reasons).
 
Joe Zumpf said:
Long poat warning, and a bit of a rant. We are in our second year at a new marina this year. Have the same slip we had last year, and we are the oddballs on the dock for sure. Smallest boat by far, the only ones who fish, and younger than most on the dock. That said, we get along with everyone around us. Plenty of friendly chat, we help anyone who may need it, and no issues when we are hauling a cooler of fish down the dock and they are socializing. They usually want to see what we hauled in. Being fisherman, we are usually in a month earlier than the rest of the dock, and a solid month after most everyone else.

We have a brand new neighbor this year, who have both slips to the north of me. We share the pier between my boat and his big boat. He seems new to boating, and bought two boats that both needed a lot of work. That's fine, we all work on our boats when needed, but one doesn't run, and the other (an 80's 34' sundancer) had no interior at all until this past week. Well, for the last 4 weeks now, every trip down to my boat results in me having to clear his crap out of the way so I can even get down our shared pier. Thats if he's there or not. Deflated dingy draped over my dock box and blocking the pier, pressure washer, leaky old outboard on a stand, and the icing on the cake is that he's had at least one, sometimes two dock carts left on the pier loaded with his stuff, one has been there filled with tools and supplies for two+ weeks, he's using it as a workbench now. His family has been down a couple times, and they are fully content sprawling out on the main dock where the fingers meet, and making everyone else tiptoe around them with no regard for them.

Two weeks ago I tried to make a couple friendly comments to him, trying to be nice, but obviously it isn't getting through. I almost feel like that's why it was the worst it's been when I got there Friday night. I mentioned it to the harbormaster this past Saturday as he asked why I was dropping my cooler off instead of wheeling it up like he's used to seeing, told him I can't get down my pier. Apparently there have already been several complaints made by people who aren't me. What had me concerned is that he made the comment that he would say something on my behalf, but the damn harbormaster is concerned about retaliation. I said you can see his mess almost from the office, shouldn't be that hard to just walk down when he's working on the boat driving the rest of the dock away. Talking with the neighbors, others have made comments as well, more direct than i have, and get the same blank stare I received with no change.

Harbormaster gave me the option to move slips, but we like our slip and rest of our dock, plus if I leave that doesn't address the actual problem. We have a 27' boat in a 45' slip, the space ia awesome. What would CSR do? Give a chance to have it addressed and try to be neighborly with the new family, or take the harbormaster up on his offer to move and get to another slip?
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I'd vote to change the slip since it's been offered to you. Summer is too short to deal with jackholes every time you go to the marina.
 
Man, so many issues at a larger marina. I'm sitting on the boat a my little marina where there are a total of 9 slips and 7 boats in them. Most are fishing boats and I don't see the owners that much. The guys on either side are super nice, never leave stuff around. The guy across from me is the former owner of the marina (is leasing the biz to new operators) so his stuff is always squared away.

Last weekend a boat that lives in the mooring field came to the drop-off dock and the family was having an all-out domestic fight: "I hope you phuck off and die" and more was heard. They threw a bunch of their trash in the water and we were horrified. My kids actually went out and collected what they could. We told the new operator about it and boy was he mad. They have no tolerance for BS and are willing to throw people out.

To the question, if you like your slip location I would not want to move either and would always be resentful that some SOB made me move because of their stupid behavior. I would be making noise with the marina operator to get them to enforce the rules of shared space - written or unwritten.
 
This is a silly "stand your ground" argument.

So let me give you a perspective:

This offender is not going to change what he is doing because he pays for two slips and I'm sure that carries some weight with the Marina.

1) Forcing the offender to move just makes the offender mad and makes him a problem with the new slip mates.
2) Forcing the offender to clean up after himself is a lost cause. His home probably looks like the slip area.
3) The OP relocating is the path of least resistance to all. Yes, it means the other people on the dock still have to put up with the offender but they should do the same as well. Eventually if enough people want to move.....the Marina will be forced to take action and relocate the offender to the end of the dock.

Short of that....nothing will change.
 
PlayDate said:
This is a silly "stand your ground" argument.

So let me give you a perspective:

This offender is not going to change what he is doing because he pays for two slips and I'm sure that carries some weight with the Marina.

1) Forcing the offender to move just makes the offender mad and makes him a problem with the new slip mates.
2) Forcing the offender to clean up after himself is a lost cause. His home probably looks like the slip area.
3) The OP relocating is the path of least resistance to all. Yes, it means the other people on the dock still have to put up with the offender but they should do the same as well. Eventually if enough people want to move.....the Marina will be forced to take action and relocate the offender to the end of the dock.

Short of that....nothing will change.
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It will when he runs out of shit because it was all tossed.
 
The elephant on he dock is that this is a poorly run marina. If the harbor-master is not assertive enough to deal with this kind of issue, what hope have you of it being any different, should you move to another slip?

I had a similar issue at a marina which I loved. The harbor-master wanted to get along with everyone and their first instinct was to offer a different slip away from the idiots, as opposed to dealing directly with the problem.

My solution was to move to another, better run marina. These "idiots" chased off a couple of other tenants, and the harbor-master was eventually let go. As much of a hassel as it is, you may be forced to vote with your wallet.
 
bobeast said:
The elephant on he dock is that this is a poorly run marina. If the harbor-master is not assertive enough to deal with this kind of issue, what hope have you of it being any different, should you move to another slip?

I had a similar issue at a marina which I loved. The harbor-master wanted to get along with everyone and their first instinct was to offer a different slip away from the idiots, as opposed to dealing directly with the problem.

My solution was to move to another, better run marina. These "idiots" chased off a couple of other tenants, and the harbor-master was eventually let go. As much of a hassel as it is, you may be forced to vote with your wallet.
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I’ve moved twice in the last 3 years because of piss poor management and have made some great new friends at each marina
 
Why should you suffer and give up a good dock because of one dock neighbor. I say get together with the other dock mates and convince the marina to do something. Maybe sign a petition if verbally asking the marina doesn’t work.
 
Figured I would post this question here, before I go full Karen at my docks.

We have had a dock for three years now, that has been fairly peaceful. This year two new monster center consoles have shown up and both are very fond of their music. It’s not just coming and going, they sit on their boats at the dock blasting some seriously awful shit.

I’m going to start by asking them to keep it at a reasonable level. But curious if you guys just ignore this or would you say something?
 
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