Mutiny!

Arminius

Arminius

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Bowrider 200 Select, 2003
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Suppose a crew member refuses a legitimate "order" like "please grab that cleat with the boathook." Has she committed mutiny and what could I do about it? Mutiny is defined by Google as: "A mutiny is a rebellion against authority, like when sailors overthrow the captain of a ship or when a class of 8th graders refuses to dissect a frog in biology class." It doesn't seem like individual acts of defiance really qualify and the frog example would definitely be distracting. Bligh did not charge mutiny for stealing coconuts or refusal to dance. And what could I do about it? 2 weeks ago, a 50'er was moored in the Lake and when we cruised aft to get the name, we found it obscured by a trap door out of which a diving plank had emerged. Maybe diving was not the exclusive use. Meanwhile, I have kept my peace but forgotten the first rule of dealing with carnivores and women: "Never show weakness!" Now we need to talk about me "giving orders." Luckily they have last in, first out minds and other situations are bound to come up. Still, I think it was mutiny and I am now on Bligh's side.
 
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Me thinks a suitable punishment would be for the mutineer to report for duty naked. That always makes me forget about her previous refusal to follow orders. In fact, I now order her not to obey my orders!
 
This is the second dumbest thread I ever read. Oh the horror.

But wait, there is more....
 
Off with her head, I say.

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kvduff said:
Who needs a plank when you could have a plywood bow cover.
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Okay, this keeps coming up, and I obviously missed the original thread. What's the deal with the plywood bow cover???

And, as far a mutiny can be defined, my summation would be that, if you only have one crew and they rebel, then your crew has committed mutiny. Isn't that at least punishable by flogging?
 
Arminius said:
Suppose a crew member refuses a legitimate "order" like "please grab that cleat with the boathook." Has she committed mutiny and what could I do about it? Mutiny is defined by Google as: "A mutiny is a rebellion against authority, like when sailors overthrow the captain of a ship or when a class of 8th graders refuses to dissect a frog in biology class." It doesn't seem like individual acts of defiance really qualify and the frog example would definitely be distracting. Bligh did not charge mutiny for stealing coconuts or refusal to dance. And what could I do about it? 2 weeks ago, a 50'er was moored in the Lake and when we cruised aft to get the name, we found it obscured by a trap door out of which a diving plank had emerged. Maybe diving was not the exclusive use. Meanwhile, I have kept my peace but forgotten the first rule of dealing with carnivores and women: "Never show weakness!" Now we need to talk about me "giving orders." Luckily they have last in, first out minds and other situations are bound to come up. Still, I think it was mutiny and I am now on Bligh's side.
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Watch You Tube videos on "keel hauling."
 
Real keel hauling was unpleasant and likely fatal.
Anyway, I went over for dinner and she announced her orthopod has diagnosed arthritic changes in her thumbs. She uses both to pull the hammer back and will have to buy an auto. I felt relatively safe given her low rate of fire but now recall an early John Wayne in which the visiting tenderfoot had a newly invented autoloader and the whole magazine went off unexpectedly. LIFO, mutiny is on the back burner. At least she practices with her gang of the similarly inclined.
 
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Real keel hauling was unpleasant and likely fatal.
Anyway, I went over for dinner and she announced her orthopod has diagnosed arthritic changes in her thumbs. She uses both to pull the hammer back and will have to buy an auto. I felt relatively safe given her low rate of fire but now recall an early John Wayne in which the visiting tenderfoot had a newly invented autoloader and the whole magazine went off unexpectedly. LIFO, mutiny is on the back burner. At least she practices with her gang of the similarly inclined.
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Seriously if you are having arthritis issues when shooting you might consider the Smith M&P EZ series, or the Ruger SR22. When I'm teaching Basic Pistol I use both in my class for new shooters. Both of these have very light slide racking.

Instead of griping the slide with just the thumb and forefinger, you can grip the slide with the heel of the non dominant hand and all fingers, and push the receiver forward with the dominant hand. It is clumsy, but easier than the standard defensive shooting technique for shooting when one hand is disabled: snagging the rear sight on your belt and pushing the pistol downward.
 
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Thank you. Better if it is easy to operate and no mistakes are made. Long ago she had a target pistol that only ate brass for her. I finally put a lighter recoil spring in it and it worked. Nobody should of sold her such a heavy pistol in the 1st place.
 
Some people should simply be never armed.
 
She is conscientious and strong for her build but there is not a lot of strength in the hands. I looked at Henry's EZ .380 and it would be good. I like revolvers but I was always concerned about her decocking her .38 and weakness in the thumbs would be a further problem. She once had a Browning 9mm target pistol with a weight under the front of the barrel and a stiff recoil spring. W/o getting into the physics, the pistol would fly back with the slide still open and bite down on the brass while it was being ejected, catching it and creating a jamb. It was frustrating for her because it only happened to her, not me or the range attendants or anyone else. I guessed that this was the problem and a lighter recoil spring cured it. Anyway, I was just saying I like the idea of a handgun built for the less strong. I really have no idea how she will react and am leery of making a gift of a pistol. Appreciate the idea though.
 
If semi autos jam its called "limp wristing". Happens to weaker people, women or oldsters.

If cock and decock is a problem, a DAO revolver is the solution. Just don't buy a S&W - The Ruger models have a much lighter trigger pull.
 
Arminius said:
...she announced her orthopod has diagnosed arthritic changes in her thumbs. She uses both to pull the hammer back and will have to buy an auto.
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My wife's grandfather was struggling a bit with his Ruger SP101 .357 for the same reason. I was able to source a light hammer spring kit that contained three different weights of spring. Concerned about ignition reliability, I installed the lightest spring for starters and put over 100 rounds through the gun, firing both single- and double-action without a single squib. It made the gun into something he could then comfortably use.

Arminius said:
...recall an early John Wayne in which the visiting tenderfoot had a newly invented autoloader and the whole magazine went off unexpectedly.
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"Big Jake". His son with the new semi-auto. 'Wish I could find the clip where they all end up in the river, trying to dodge the bullets.
 
My wife has had RA for most of her adult life. Her thumb on one had is near junk and she has weak wrists. None of my firearms worked well for her and there are plenty to choose from... I was going to grab a hammerless .38 revolver, but I ended up getting her an M&P Shield in 9mm. Seems to be a near perfect match. I didn't go with the EZ.
 
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