GF I’m agreeing with another member, it may not be working.
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GF I’m agreeing with another member, it may not be working.
I’m also agreeing that a 40 with 454’s might be pushing the limit of a gas engine. The diesel was one of my wishes on my list. I’ve looked at two 39’s here locally both had 454’s both were pigs in the water.
one owner was moving up to a larger boat, he was honest about those motors and wished it was a diesel
one owner was moving up to a larger boat, he was honest about those motors and wished it was a diesel
JayhawkCurtis
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- May 24, 2021
- 5,410
- Boat Info
- 2004 Sea Ray 240 Sundeck
- Engines
- 350 Mag Mercruiser w/Bravo III Drive
$139,009 is a interesting asking price.
mrsrobinson
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Go look at the 2 in DC/Northern Virginia. The one has been on the market for over a year. When I talked to the owner last year all he wanted to talk about was the fancy stereo and brown upholstered seats. These will be cocktail cruise boats as well, most in that area are.
Stee6043
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Drive on up to West MI and I'd be happy to burn some gas and show you how much of a dog they are
I'll even toss my 500lbs dinghy on the platform to show you how much she struggles to get on plane!@ 380 hours I wonder if those merc's are new-ish? That would be a very nice option, IMO.
mrsrobinson
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Oh boy, the why my big block gassers are better than diesels flame has reignited...Drive on up to West MI and I'd be happy to burn some gas and show you how much of a dog they are
@ 380 hours I wonder if those merc's are new-ish? That would be a very nice option, IMO.
As a recent convert to diesels, I love them, and hope to never go back to gas. Especially in a 40'+ boat.
Stee6043
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Hah. Not at all. Diesels are better, I’ll get ‘em someday. But a 40 with gassers is not a pig…not by a long shot
mrsrobinson
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Hog? Fat cow? Giant Tortoise? Manatee?But a 40 with gassers is not a pig…not by a long shot
Steve S
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- Jun 5, 2007
- 3,140
- Boat Info
- 2000 400 Sedan Bridge with twin CAT 3116's
2000 340 Sundancer - SOLD!
210 Monaco 1987 - SOLD!
- Engines
- Twin Caterpillar 3116's 350 HP straight drives
I think your terminology is incorrect... It isn't a "slug" as far as performance is concerned... as far as fuel burn, maybe it is a "pig"...Hah. Not at all. Diesels are better, I’ll get ‘em someday. But a 40 with gassers is not a pig…not by a long shot
mrsrobinson
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I enjoyed filling up with diesel at the pumps 3 weeks ago, lower than gas, and the lower fuel burn during my trip
- Jan 26, 2008
- 2,840
- Boat Info
- SOLD 2005 420 DA w/T-8.1S Horizons
- Engines
- 2018 Sea Hunt 255se w/Yamaha 300hp
Gas in a 40+ on a lake is fine. In many ways preferable. Nowhere to go. Lots of fuel and service options.
Gas in the ocean is different story. High fuel cost, long distances, and low torque for when things get iffy.
No generator or a non-working generator is a deal-killer to me. A lot of these older generators are hard to find parts for. I struggled with my 93 400EC's Quicksilver Genny. Spent many $$$ on it.
Also factor in the transportation cost of a boat that size going from OK to NJ. You're probably adding $10-$15K to your cost.
One upside would be that's it's been in freshwater most/all its life.
Gas in the ocean is different story. High fuel cost, long distances, and low torque for when things get iffy.
No generator or a non-working generator is a deal-killer to me. A lot of these older generators are hard to find parts for. I struggled with my 93 400EC's Quicksilver Genny. Spent many $$$ on it.
Also factor in the transportation cost of a boat that size going from OK to NJ. You're probably adding $10-$15K to your cost.
One upside would be that's it's been in freshwater most/all its life.
mrsrobinson
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Agreed and I think the OP will be okay with a gas boat where he is, as long as he's not doing a lot of long trips. All else equal though, price and condition, I'm going for the diesels.
We do want to do longer trips and I’d like to explore further up the Bay. Mostly I want a bigger cabin and more comfort. My 30 is a great boat, somewhat easy to work on. I’m in no rush to find my next boat. The 40’ is my wish. So here I am
mrsrobinson
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This is why I bought the 380 with diesels, go look at those 400s.
Stee6043
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I think your terminology is incorrect... It isn't a "slug" as far as performance is concerned... as far as fuel burn, maybe it is a "pig"...
Shoot, I rocked .77 MPG on my first run of the year! And that's at a visceral 3700-3800 RPM.
I can probably get 2.0 MPG outta this thing if I'd drive her as slow as you guys
Stee6043
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Good luck with your search. In all seriousness I did initially start looking for only diesels when I knew I had to have the 400DA. But I happened upon 2 40's for sale within 30 +/- miles of each other in Wisconsin when I was shopping. One diesel, one gas. I got on both of them the same day.
After copious comparisons, and riding on 2 gas powered 400's (one with 7.4's and the other with 8.1's) I was comfortable with gas. It does take a special kind of crazy to dock a boat this size with props this small but I figure it's making me a better driver overall
Had the diesel been in comparable condition and had been close in price (IIRC the diesel was $30k higher asking price, same year) I surely would have gone that route...
hottoddie
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- Jan 11, 2012
- 2,230
- Boat Info
- 1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
Garmin 24 HD Radar
Garmin 546s Plotter
- Engines
- 454 Crusaders
If propped correctly and equipped with both extended trim tabs and trim tabs installed between the tunnels they will perform just fine. My 390EC is equipped with both and can accommodate 8-10 passengers and full fuel and stay on plane at 16 knots at 2800rpm and get up to 25knots at 4100rpm. SeaRay factory trim tabs are woefully undersized on most of their boats.
mrsrobinson
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Gas boaters use iPhones, diesel boaters use Android, nuff said
I'd push to a bridge boat. The 400DB's are a great boat; they run good, are straight shaft boats, and are well balanced. Running from the bridge is simply another aspect that is better, much more enjoyable. Having a real cabin above the water is another plus-plus. I miss my 400DA and all of it's simplicity and ease of use but the Sedan Bridge is another massive step up in pleasure. You will find for spending days and nights on a boat that the bridge boats bring a lot to the table in comfort.
mrsrobinson
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I don't disagree with this, though my last "big boat" was a sedan and now I have the 380DA, that I love. The cockpit space is what I wanted "back". My knees do not like going up./down the cabin stairs, and the cabin is darker, but I am ok with that, especially not roasting from the sun coming thru the glass in the summers and climbing the stairs to the bridge.