Length question

He called me names in the end. Thanks for the thought though.
 
I can get this baby up to darn near 31mph (I don't think in knots). Problem is I'd probably blow a piston or break a bolt doing it all day long.
 
Well, that just shows that you don't take care of your engines.

speaking of bolts....
 
tobnpr said:
The marine industry as a whole has kinda morphed this whole length thing...
Years ago, before integrated swim platforms, or so-called "Euro-transoms" things were pretty straightforward. Transom to bow, and bow pulpits were not included whether they were bolt-on or integral to the hull.

As these designs changed, so did the measurements. Most builders began including the swim platforms into the LOA if they were molded in as part of the hull. Made the boat sound bigger- what easier way to add two or three feet to the length of a boat?
Same with bow pulpits.

Fact is, it's deceptive if you're not aware of how the builder is calculating this measurement.

A 25' boat is now called a 29 footer.
But, it's still a 25' boat.

A swim platform is a swim platform- whether it's integrated or bolt-on. The running surface of the hull is still the same as the 25 footer in the next slip without the integrated platform and bow pulpit, and it's going to perform the same- like a 25 footer.
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Interesting and just what the local SeaRay rep told me the other day at the boat show. She said older designs (like mine) with a bolt on platform did not take the platform into the LOA. But now almost all boats (not just Searays) have the integrated platform and add it into the length.

She told me that almost all manufacturers are going with this designation/length trend now.

I can tell you from visiting the new 310 that it is a lot Taller than mine in the cabin and so appears a little roomier in some way. Overall it seemed to be a smaller footprint to me.
 
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tobnpr said:
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Years ago, before integrated swim platforms, or so-called "Euro-transoms" things were pretty straightforward. Transom to bow, and bow pulpits were not included whether they were bolt-on or integral to the hull.
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This is definition the Coast Guard uses when a vessel is documented. IMO, It would be nice if all of the manufacturers stuck with this definition. The reality is that inflating the boat's length to include Bow Pulpits and/or swim platforms is all marketing by the manufacturers to make prospective buyers thinking they are getting a good deal on a 40 footer when they are only buying a 36.

That reminds me, sometime back in the mid 90's I saw a Mainship at the boatshow that was a 32 footer one year and a 40 footer the next.:huh:
 
thanks to all for the explanation on this. I have been researching older (98 - 01) sundeckers and could not figure out why the models kept on changing from 200 to 210 to 220. I guess it mainly stemmed from reclassification related to the swim deck?
 
We enjoy people's expressions when sitting in a new to us marina next to 32-33 foot boats of various brands. Someone always asks how long the boat is. We say 32 feet because that is what it is--a 32 Open. However, it's really nearly 39 feet over all and towers over most 33 footers. Not sure why, but Tiara measures its boats at the water line. I guess this is the way navel archeitects measure length.
 
Thanks Tim. Taken by a fellow CSR guy and a good friend last summer. Barnegat Light in the background was an added bonus.
 
sbw1 said:
We enjoy people's expressions when sitting in a new to us marina next to 32-33 foot boats of various brands. Someone always asks how long the boat is. We say 32 feet because that is what it is--a 32 Open. However, it's really nearly 39 feet over all and towers over most 33 footers. Not sure why, but Tiara measures its boats at the water line. I guess this is the way navel archeitects measure length.
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I know what you mean. Model numbers mean little. Our boat was called a 330 Express before SR changed it to the 340 Amberjack. Same boat. Same length of 33' hull and 38' overall. Must have had a big price increase that year and decided a 340 would justify the price increase from the 330?:huh:

Compared to the same year 340 Sundancer, the 340 Amberjack is 2' longer (length overall) 2' wider, and 3500 Lbs heavier with the same power.

No wonder new boaters get confused!:wow: (and I think manufacturers like it that way):smt115
 
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