Jack Roush crashes another plane

As a high time pilot I would say it's time to hire a pilot and leave the driving to some one else.....
 
popeye said:
As a high time pilot I would say it's time to hire a pilot and leave the driving to some one else.....
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I'm surprised that the insurance company has not demanded it?? I know Bill Elliot was made to hire a pilot for his citation. Most of the time he would still fly it from the right seat:thumbsup:. Just had to have the pilot for insurance reasons.
 
He would probably save more on his ins. than it costs to hire a pilot, especially after two wrecks.....Also the deductible costs are probably in the hundreds of thousands.....
 
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I grew up going to Oshkosh with my dad. Damn busy airport that week. He pancaked it good to break the gear and the rear half. I hope he's got a good Chiropractor.
 
Maybe Jack believes that old adage "Anything you can walk away from is a good landing".
 
I landed at Oshkosh once. They had 4 patterns going at the same time for the runway. In other words, at any given time 4 planes could be landing at various points of the runway. It was crazy.
 
Shouldn't trade paint with the ground, best leave that on the track. If I remember right...Biffle pilots a helo, not sure about Edwards....if he does, I hope Keselowski doesn't!
 
sfergson727 said:
True, but a better landing is one in which the airplane can be used again.
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Yea, that's how I always tried to land 'em, long ago...

I always got more nervous at busier airports. Not because they were busy (nothing I flew into was all that busy), but because I knew there were more aviation professional there. And therefore more of them watching me. In reality, they probably never gave a second thought to a kid in a 150 painted orange and something and something. Looked like a flying Howard Johnson's.

But I digress... Point is, to fly into Oshkosh would just about be my worst nightmare. Busy, sure. But the grounds are also filled with aviators and aviation buffs. Worst audience ever I would think.
 
Just a side note, they (Air Venture) have implemented some interesting rules.

Rule #1) you (the pilot) are not allowed to talk to them (air traffic control.)
 
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Scott - Hot Dogging in a Citation V must have been a blast! How cool.

The only thing close to that kind of ATC request I have is when landing at Kansas City Downtown airport, the controller requested I maintain speed through the pattern because there were jets closing in behind me. So I flew balls to the wall until half way down final. But in my 150, it was quite a different sensation that your Citation V would have been!
 
I met Jack at Atlanta some years back, very nice man.
 
Got to meet Jack when I was working on Geroge "W" Bush's re-election team. he came to WV with Bill Elliott. Two very nice men and took time to talk cars with a "nobody". Prayers for a speedy recovery.
 
I'm glad Jack and his passenger are okay.
I do think it's time to pass the controls, although, without a complete investigation, I won't blame it on Jack.

It was a series of perfectly aligned events that contributed to him surviving the first crash. I spent twenty years as an accident investigator, and when I read about the rescue, I couldn't help thinking about the "what ifs".

I dug up a pretty good summary from an old report...
http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Saving-of-NASCARs-Jack-Roush&id=333419
 
I don't know -If a controller gives you a command you can't comply with, it's the pilots obligation to turn it down and request different instructions. At the end of the day it is the pilots responsibility , especially in VFR conditions...But that's old school, probably different now...
 
If a controller gives you a command you can't comply with, it's the pilots obligation to turn it down and request different instructions.

Correct but if a controller instructs a pilot to do something against regs or anyway non- standard he's sticking his neck out. Insurance legal will look & find any possible way to include the FAA in cause of accident.

In my youth I worked a couple of temp towers at airshows. It was crazy trying to "control" traffic with a mixture of ultra-lights, balloons, parachutes, home builts with & without radios & "real" planes. Best to let them do their own thing. Old tower chief used to walk thru the facility & say that we caused more conflicts than prevented. Some days I did agree.
 
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He lost sight in one eye as a result of the accident. He will have to fly with a pilot now as he will be unable to fly solo.
From what little I know the accident happened at the EAA convention in Oshkosh where 10,000 plus planes land and take off. It sounds like he took some evasive action while landing because another aircraft got very close to him. Here is what the initial NTSB has to say

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20100728X70427&key=1
 
Her is some more info:

NASCAR racing legend Jack Roush appears to blame air traffic
controllers working EAA AirVenture in Oshkosh for the events that led to
the crash landing of his Beech Premier jet on July 27. "The
reality of it -- on a trip arrival into Oshkosh, Wisc., I was put in
conflict with the flight plan of another airplane close to the ground,
and I was unable to address the conflict and keep the
airplane flying. I ground-looped the airplane..." Roush told the car
racing publication Motorsports. Tower recordings
do seem to suggest a clipped discussion between two controllers in
which one wonders whether instructions issued to
Roush could be successfully accomplished. "Is 6JR (Roush's plane) going
to be OK with this?" a controller asks. "Affirmative," says the
controller working Roush's aircraft. "Don't think so," says the
other controller. Seconds later the first controller begins ordering
traffic on final to go around. The NTSB has issued its preliminary report
and says, based on amateur video it has seen, Roush apparently overshot
the centerline of the runway and made several course corrections.


"The airplane appeared to overshoot the runway centerline during
this turn and then level its wings momentarily before entering a slight
right bank simultaneously as the nose of the airplane
pitched up," the report says. "The airplane then turned left toward the
runway centerline and began a descent. During this descent the
airplane's pitch appeared to increase until the airplane entered
a right bank and struck the grass area west of the runway in a nose
down, right wing low attitude." The aircraft had a cockpit voice
recorder and it's being analyzed. Meanwhile, Roush is out of
hospital after two weeks of surgeries and treatments for severe facial
injuries. He lost the sight in his left eye in the accident and
suffered multiple broken bones, including a broken jaw. Roush,
who survived a previous plane crash, told Motorsport he's counting his
blessings. "I feel very lucky," Roush said. "I've had several bites at
the apple."
 
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