Boristhebanker
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Does anyone have a 225 215 Weekender or Express Cruiser that is self bailing? I'd like to know where your scuppers are located.
Is the floor of the 225 Weekender high enough for a self bailing cockpit?
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Answered in your other thread. Best to keep just one thread going.
But, your title is a little different in this one - maybe delete the other one.
No, this model doesn't have this. But... could it be added? Well, get 'yer tape measure out. Measure from the top of the gunwale to the cockpit floor. Then measure from the top of the gunwale to the waterline. IF there's enough room, you may be able to re-purpose the existing cockpit drains that drop to the bilge.
But, your title is a little different in this one - maybe delete the other one.
No, this model doesn't have this. But... could it be added? Well, get 'yer tape measure out. Measure from the top of the gunwale to the cockpit floor. Then measure from the top of the gunwale to the waterline. IF there's enough room, you may be able to re-purpose the existing cockpit drains that drop to the bilge.
A self bailing cockpit is a very nice thing - especially when left on a mooring. It virtually eliminates the reliance on the bilge pump due to rain water (although certainly using a cover helps). It's a good thing to have and I would ALWAYS prefer to have one. Whether it's "needed" or not is of course up to the owner and how the boat gets used. But not having to worry about whether or not the bilge pump kicks the bucket or kills a battery is a nice feeling.
scoflaw
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- Aug 10, 2011
- 6,395
- Boat Info
- 1999 Powerquest legend 260 sx 502 mag
2005 Baja 242 islander 496
- Engines
- 502 mpi Bravo 1
496 mag B1
All boats should be self bailing. Dumb ass idea about sending the water to the bilge, and also from a safety aspect, you take a big one over the top and last thing you want is for it to be on your motor.
NOT self bailing is pretty common for many sport/pleasure boats like SR or Chaparral, etc.
But, yes, they did make self bailing boats and still do. Just depends on the model/size. The smallest boat currently offered with it is the 260SLX and 270SDX.
It's all relative
Boristhebanker
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I keep the boat in a marina a few months a year and the bilge pump location in front of the engine on my 225 leaves a lot of water in the bilge. I use it for salmon fishing and it often needs a a good rinse.
- Jun 9, 2023
- 665
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- 2000 270 DA
'06 F250 4x4
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- 7.4 MerCruiser MPI w/Bravo III
That was one of the first things that confounded me when I acquired my new to me, 270. Both floats/pumps being in front of the engine looked to be far more (*insert non offensive adjective here*) than I would have expected from Sea Ray.
Naturally, it suited me fine when I had to replace the primary pump, right out of the gate, though. I've always taken a bit of pride in maintaining a clean, dry bilge but can readily see the complication here with that premise . . . Time will tell.
Boris, Being a bit of an audiophile, I got a chuckle at your screen name, as my first thought when I saw that was
'I wondered if you were related to Boris the Spider.'
Naturally, it suited me fine when I had to replace the primary pump, right out of the gate, though. I've always taken a bit of pride in maintaining a clean, dry bilge but can readily see the complication here with that premise . . . Time will tell.
Boris, Being a bit of an audiophile, I got a chuckle at your screen name, as my first thought when I saw that was
'I wondered if you were related to Boris the Spider.'
Well, that there is the dilemma. Put the bilge pump towards the aft end of the bilge and then have people curse you out for the location when it comes time to replace. Or put it a bit further forward so it can be replaced without yanking the engine or getting stuck underneath the engine doing boat yoga. This is really just an "it is what it is" kind of thing.
On my 260DA, the pump was in front of the engine as normal. However, because the bilge floor is only SLIGHTLY unlevel, there really isn't that much water left in there. It was easy enough to towel or sponge (using a stick to push/pull) it out.
On my 260DA, the pump was in front of the engine as normal. However, because the bilge floor is only SLIGHTLY unlevel, there really isn't that much water left in there. It was easy enough to towel or sponge (using a stick to push/pull) it out.
Yes, but not all the way in the back of the bilge - underneath slightly. But luckliy the 215/225 is a relatively friendly bilge to work in.
Yeah, when that model was redesigned from the original 215 there were some nice improvements. One thing I didn't like was the engine cover design. It does limit access - the original one was a little smaller and not connected to anything - you just lifted it off and set it sideways between the front seats. But for normal everyday access, your setup is nicer.
