Insurance...I'm looking

Thanks to all who recommended NBOA, I switched this week and it saved us $400 or 60% of our costs with Allstate. I guess this means I can become at least a Silver sponser now.:thumbsup:
 
I got a quote from NBOA and they are just over $300 more than BoatUS. The difference I notice is NBOA lists collision and BoatUS doesn't list it. Do you think this is the reason for the difference? Also whats the difference between comprehensive and collision?
 
This happened to me, too. I just got an "umbrella" update to my homeowners policy for less than $100/year. Still saved a bunch of $$$ by going to NBOA.


I just checked with my homeowners....because I have a teenage driver, a $1m umbrella liability policy will cost me $421.00 a year.
 
I don't know about Florida specifics, but I shopped maybe 7 or 8 different coverages, and Zurich had by far the best rates. They were the only company willing to do a 1% deductible (most were 3-4%).
 
Ok...I am keeping this thread revived. I am still shopping insurance. I have talked to Clyde at NBOA and he is getting my a couple of other quotes with different liability coverage options. I am also checking with a couple of local providers. My current policy(which I got, when I bought this boat 3 yeas ago) still has the same agreed value...do you change the agreed value when you are shopping insurance? Example....to insure with NBOA, I would be decreasing my agreed value about $6000.....which seems normal, since the boat is not worth as much as it was 3 years ago. What changes, if any do you make on agreed value when pricing insurance? Thanks for the input.
 
I switched to NBOA last week. I did have to reduce my agreed vaule a bit....but it saved my about 40% from my previous insurance provider. Clyde was very helpful.
 
Here's something interesting about older boats. I called Clyde at NBOA. He told me the only company that writes for boats > 10yo without a survey is Progressive. His quote for the same line for line coverage was twice what I'm paying Allstate.

He also explained to me the difference in coverage btwn AGREED VALUE and ACTUAL VALUE. With Allstate, I have ACTUAL VALUE, which means if the boat is a total loss, they'll come up with an appraised value and give me that. The value for my boat that he came up with is about $20K less than the ACTUAL VALUE listed on my Allstate policy. He told me that the ACTUAL VALUE amount on my Allstate Declarations page is a 5 year old value and even if the boat is trashed, I won't get that amount. So he suggested I call Allstate and lower my value by $20K - ie: right now I'm paying for an additional $20K of coverage that I will not get in the event of total loss. He said it could save me a couple of hundred bucks. BTW, Clyde is a retired Allstate Agent.

So, if anyone wants to save some coin, check the wording on your policy - you could be paying for something you will not get, esp if the policy is a few years old.

I had Allstate with my first boat. I had BOAT/US with my second boat, which I switched to State Farm and saved a bundle. State Farm would not insure this boat b/c it had inboards (huh??) so I went back to Allstate. BOAT/US's quote for this boat was OUTRAGEOUS - double what Allstate quoted me (this was when I shopped around back in the summer of 2004). I had one claim on my first boat for a rebuilt Alpha one outdrive after I "hit something." Allstate told me to get an estimate and sent me a check without question. Other than that, no claims since then (1999).

I hadn't shopped until reading this thread but obviously, Allstate is my best deal - unless I spring for $500 or so for a survey. Even then, who knows what they'll come up with.
 
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Mine is thru USAA...sort of. They have recently started using Progressive for their boats and other type of toys.... The rate thru the USAA/Progressive was less than the other quotes I had.

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Mine is thru USAA...sort of. They have recently started using Progressive for their boats and other type of toys.... The rate thru the USAA/Progressive was less than the other quotes I had.

Woof
Bowser


Same here. I have a sailboat that is grandfathered and they are still holding the policy. The motor boat I just insured went through Progressive at a good rate too.
 
I don't know about Florida specifics, but I shopped maybe 7 or 8 different coverages, and Zurich had by far the best rates. They were the only company willing to do a 1% deductible (most were 3-4%).

We've had Zurich for a while. Just got a renewal notice with some changes of coverage. Something about not covering damages from freezing. Haven't read it fully yet. As has been noted, make sure you're getting the right coverage (agreed vs actual).
 
Here's something interesting about older boats. I called Clyde at NBOA. He told me the only company that writes for boats > 10yo without a survey is Progressive. His quote for the same line for line coverage was twice what I'm paying Allstate.

He also explained to me the difference in coverage btwn AGREED VALUE and ACTUAL VALUE. With Allstate, I have ACTUAL VALUE, which means if the boat is a total loss, they'll come up with an appraised value and give me that. The value for my boat that he came up with is about $20K less than the ACTUAL VALUE listed on my Allstate policy. He told me that the ACTUAL VALUE amount on my Allstate Declarations page is a 5 year old value and even if the boat is trashed, I won't get that amount. So he suggested I call Allstate and lower my value by $20K - ie: right now I'm paying for an additional $20K of coverage that I will not get in the event of total loss. He said it could save me a couple of hundred bucks. BTW, Clyde is a retired Allstate Agent.

So, if anyone wants to save some coin, check the wording on your policy - you could be paying for something you will not get, esp if the policy is a few years old.

I had Allstate with my first boat. I had BOAT/US with my second boat, which I switched to State Farm and saved a bundle. State Farm would not insure this boat b/c it had inboards (huh??) so I went back to Allstate. BOAT/US's quote for this boat was OUTRAGEOUS - double what Allstate quoted me (this was when I shopped around back in the summer of 2004). I had one claim on my first boat for a rebuilt Alpha one outdrive after I "hit something." Allstate told me to get an estimate and sent me a check without question. Other than that, no claims since then (1999).

I hadn't shopped until reading this thread but obviously, Allstate is my best deal - unless I spring for $500 or so for a survey. Even then, who knows what they'll come up with.

Ron, not that I'm disputing what Clyde said, I'm just curious how one could be paying for a level of insurance they may not be entitled to receive? IE paying for $20k more coverage but won't receive that value in the event of a loss.

If you're paying for it, you should receive it, no? Or is this just because it's an 'actual value' policy and not an 'agreed value' policy. If it were agreed then I guess you would receive whatever the amount you insured for?

Doug
 
Ron, not that I'm disputing what Clyde said, I'm just curious how one could be paying for a level of insurance they may not be entitled to receive? IE paying for $20k more coverage but won't receive that value in the event of a loss.

If you're paying for it, you should receive it, no? Or is this just because it's an 'actual value' policy and not an 'agreed value' policy. If it were agreed then I guess you would receive whatever the amount you insured for?

Doug
Hello, Doug. This is Clyde at NBOA. Actual cash value policies apply depreciation to losses. Agreed value policies may apply depreciation to losses for items such as canvas, batteries, sails, curtains, etc, but total losses are settled at the face amount of the policy, without depreciation, regardless of the value of the boat at the time of the loss. No matter what the face amount of coverage is on an actual cash value policy, a total loss is settled at the value of the boat at the time of the loss. For the companies that I represent, partial losses that don't involve the items listed above are also settled on a replacement basis until your boat is over 7 years old. After 7 years, depreciation is applied to losses involving outboard motors, outdrive units and other machinery. But, a total loss is still settled at the face amount of the policy. I hope that helps clear up the difference between the two policy types.
 
Hello, Doug. This is Clyde at NBOA. Actual cash value policies apply depreciation to losses. Agreed value policies may apply depreciation to losses for items such as canvas, batteries, sails, curtains, etc, but total losses are settled at the face amount of the policy, without depreciation, regardless of the value of the boat at the time of the loss. No matter what the face amount of coverage is on an actual cash value policy, a total loss is settled at the value of the boat at the time of the loss. For the companies that I represent, partial losses that don't involve the items listed above are also settled on a replacement basis until your boat is over 7 years old. After 7 years, depreciation is applied to losses involving outboard motors, outdrive units and other machinery. But, a total loss is still settled at the face amount of the policy. I hope that helps clear up the difference between the two policy types.

Roger Clyde. By the way I got your message yesterday. I was on vacation but I will be giving you a call shortly.

Doug
 
NBOA. No question about it. I experienced substantial savings. Their numbers even surprised the MMax business manager at closing.
 
Your Best Bet is NBOA. We had our old boat with them 2000 Searay and I spent a few hours checking on other Insurance Co. for the new boat and I could not find any other Co. to match them.
 
I use National Marine Underwriters and what I like about them is they offer a Waiver of Depreciation coverage. I have a 92 300 da and if I bang an outdrive they will pay 100% replacement cost. I have 42k agreed value and and 300k liablity. the Waiver of Dep. adds another $259 annually and the total bill is $1069. Deductibles are $840 for theft, total/catostopohic. I too thought Nboa would not do boats over 10 years. How does this rate sound?? I have not shopped it in a while but do like the waiver option. thanks RF
 

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