If you don't like high gas prices......

Hey! We've made it to the "Holding Tank"! Something told me we were heading there, Mike.
 
This is the irony of all this. People that feel for the moo-moo girls are probably hypocrites. I'll give you an example... let's say you are getting a new roof on your house. Do you get multiple bids? All things being equal, do you choose the lesser quote? Well... is that fair? What if all the roofers got together and did "roofing price fixing?" Oh wait... that's not legal... So if you do that in the management of labor for your own finances, why is it wrong to do that with labor for your business? Maybe the guys that are washing and waxing my boat next week deserve some ownership of my boat since they are the ones keeping it looking nice... what the hell...

Give me a break...

Maybe the moo-moo girls should "choose" to go to night school once a month instead of meeting once a month in a b!tch session about their boss. Maybe they can move their careers up.

And... I have one up on you libtards. I actually used to pick earthworms in a bait shop as a flunky employee at 4:00 am every morning at the base of the pier in a small town in Michigan. I didn't wear a moo-moo though.
 
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Oh yeah... and now that this is in the holding tank, I don't have to be polite anymore.
 
MonacoMike said:
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That's an even dozen. Gary, you had to get at least a C in entry econ to understand that. :thumbsup:
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Four Suns said:
This is the irony of all this. People that feel for the moo-moo girls are probably hypocrites. I'll give you an example... let's say you are getting a new roof on your house. Do you get multiple bids? All things being equal, do you choose the lesser quote? Well... is that fair? What if all the roofers got together and did "roofing price fixing?" Oh wait... that's not legal... So if you do that in the management of labor for your own finances, why is it wrong to do that with labor for your business?

Give me a break...

Maybe the moo-moo girls should "choose" to go to night school once a month instead of meeting once a month in a b!tch session about their boss.
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You may have even gotten a B with that level of understanding. It is sad that the sheeple today can’t understand simple economics. That the market always provides the right answer, but it’s not always what people feel is fair.

They go to preschool and someone pays for it, they go to elementary school and someone pays for it, they go to jr. high school and someone pays for it, they go to high school and someone pays for it, they go to college and someone pays for it, they go to grad school to get advanced degrees and someone pays for it. Oh they will complain about the student loans but someone had to pay it for them.

They now think everything should be paid for them and why shouldn’t they? The do-gooders have trained them. They now go to work for someone who is over-regulated to provide for them and they look around at the moo-moo girls and say: that’s not fair.

Who are the “they” above? Mostly the sheeple who have never worked for themselves, been commission only, started a business, or ran a business. To the “they” of the world: get out of the protected bubble and enter the real world and the reality of the market and what you will learn will surprise you.
 
Maybe some people here just need to get a Verizon phone... hell... this little girl did it:

[video=youtube;MUcpCB7Wls8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcpCB7Wls8[/video]
 
So why do all the responses stop just because we have been flushed:huh: Do we not allow libtards down here:smt021:grin:
 
Not sure what we are talking about anymore. The current theme appears to be "Anybody not running their own business only merits $0.40/hr". I do not feel like contributing to this theme at this time. Not quite the taxes and gasoline topic this thread started out as.
 
rickyp52 said:
Like any good capitalist he would never miss an opportunity to increase his bottom line!
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So is this part what differs the right from the left?? If so then...YEAH I would ask what is wrong with increasing the bottom line? All services have a value and customers are only going to pay so much or they take their business elsewhere. I don't see why this is hard for people to figure out.
 
comsnark said:
Not sure what we are talking about anymore. The current theme appears to be "Anybody not running their own business only merits $0.40/hr". I do not feel like contributing to this theme at this time. Not quite the taxes and gasoline topic this thread started out as.
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I don't think that is the case. I question why people who are broke and needing a job always seem to think they should be running the company and worried about what the owner is making after only a short time of employment:huh: The thread turned long ago, so what difference is it now:smt021:grin:
 
comsnark said:
Not sure what we are talking about anymore. The current theme appears to be "Anybody not running their own business only merits $0.40/hr". I do not feel like contributing to this theme at this time. Not quite the taxes and gasoline topic this thread started out as.
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No no no... The theme is "If you haven't run a business, then shut your pie hole on how to run a business."

See Corn Pop... Wikipedia can only take you so far in life. If you think having "profits" of $250K for the owner is "rich," then you are showing how naive you are (or mis-wiki-informed). What the government says you make on the bottom line and what cash you pull out of the company are two very different numbers. It is not unusual to have the IRS say you've "made $300K" but your cash coming out to pay your personal bills is $75K... but hey... let's take that too... moo-moo girls need it.
 
So let's do a little math just to show how "greedy" business owners/CEO's are...

Let's say I decide to start a company... I put in $100,000 of my own money. I spend $30,000 with a law firm to organize the company (file all the right paper work, maybe take some investments, etc), buy $30,000 of software and computer hardware, rent some office space and dump $20,000 in that for some new walls and furniture and spend $20,000 on a booth I can take to trade shows and advertise. OK... that's $100,000.

Now I go out and hire 3 people for $50,000/year but that's really like $60,000 a year with all the benefits loaded in.

Now... the first year... well.. Selling at the beginning of the year is slow so I have to put in another $100,000 to cover salaries and other "expenses." I put it in as a loan... but I'm out $200,000.

End of year, we pull in $600,000 in sales (that would be a freekin miracle if that happened but this is an example.)

So here's the budget:

$180,000 salaries
$40,000 expenses (rent, supplies, travel, etc)
$100,000 upfront startup expenses
$100,000 pay back loan

That leaves $180,000 left in the bank.

Guess how much Obama says I made? $280,000... why? Because the startup costs and equipment all have to amortized so that is really "profit" even though a used computer is worth zip. Even the lawyer fees for drawing up the company have to be amortized out over time and can't be written off. So I get taxed on $280,000... oh.. and I have to pay self-employment tax too... so my taxes will be on the order of $100,000 with state getting their cut.

So now my company has $80,000 left in the bank to pay me. Even though I'm a greedy rich guy that on paper made "$280,000"... But I can't really take the $80,000 out of the company to pay me because the company needs working capital... so I get zip... Obama gets $100K... employees get $180K... WEEEEEE!!!!!



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Four Suns said:
So let's do a little math just to show how "greedy" business owners/CEO's are...

Let's say I decide to start a company... I put in $100,000 of my own money. I spend $30,000 with a law firm to organize the company (file all the right paper work, maybe take some investments, etc), buy $30,000 of software and computer hardware, rent some office space and dump $20,000 in that for some new walls and furniture and spend $20,000 on a booth I can take to trade shows and advertise. OK... that's $100,000.

Now I go out and hire 3 people for $50,000/year but that's really like $60,000 a year with all the benefits loaded in.

Now... the first year... well.. Selling at the beginning of the year is slow so I have to put in another $100,000 to cover salaries and other "expenses." I put it in as a loan... but I'm out $200,000.

End of year, we pull in $600,000 in sales (that would be a freekin miracle if that happened but this is an example.)

So here's the budget:

$180,000 salaries
$40,000 expenses (rent, supplies, travel, etc)
$100,000 upfront startup expenses
$100,000 pay back loan

That leaves $180,000 left in the bank.

Guess how much Obama says I made? $280,000... why? Because the startup costs and equipment all have to amortized so that is really "profit" even though a used computer is worth zip. Even the lawyer fees for drawing up the company have to be amortized out over time and can't be written off. So I get taxed on $280,000... oh.. and I have to pay self-employment tax too... so my taxes will be on the order of $100,000 with state getting their cut.

So now my company has $80,000 left in the bank to pay me. Even though I'm a greedy rich guy that on paper made "$280,000"... But I can't really take the $80,000 out of the company to pay me because the company needs working capital... so I get zip... Obama gets $100K... employees get $180K... WEEEEEE!!!!!



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You forgot one!! I just found out about my Seminole County tangible property tax :( Now all my personal tools and tool boxes I have had for years (all Snap On and not cheap) are subject to annual tax. So I paid sales tax on my $18k rotary screw compressor, $100K CNC Router (which I have to ammortize), all my used computers (because I couldn't afford new ones to start) , printers, furniture, software, and everything else it takes to run a shop:smt021 I didn't know I had to pay taxes to use my personal tools I have had for years :huh: And libtards want to flip crap!! It's crazy how much I pay in taxes to work and watch people who don't work collect:smt021:smt021:huh:
 
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If you can afford a CNC machine, you can afford more moo-moo girls.
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Ha Ha...that CNC turns out an amazing amount of work with very little waste and it does not know how to text, steal or lie.. unlike moo moo gurlz:wow:
 
Four Suns said:
No no no... The theme is "If you haven't run a business, then shut your pie hole on how to run a business."

See Corn Pop... Wikipedia can only take you so far in life. If you think having "profits" of $250K for the owner is "rich," then you are showing how naive you are (or mis-wiki-informed).
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Considering that I have not been talking about running a business, or "what defines rich"; won't take much to shut me up on that topic!

I guess you are responding to some post's you imagined I wrote?
Four Suns said:
So let's do a little math just to show how "greedy" business owners/CEO's are...

Let's say I decide to start a company... I put in $100,000 of my own money. I spend $30,000 with a law firm to organize the company (file all the right paper work, maybe take some investments, etc), buy $30,000 of software and computer hardware, rent some office space and dump $20,000 in that for some new walls and furniture a. . .

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If the numbers are THAT bad, I would suggest that you stick to making moo-moo's;

So my take away from your post is that I really want to be the guy you are paying $30k to file some forms . . .
 
comsnark said:
If the numbers are THAT bad, I would suggest that you stick to making moo-moo's;

So my take away from your post is that I really want to be the guy you are paying $30k to file some forms . . .
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The numbers ARE that bad. That's the point. The libtards don't get it.

"...$30K to file some forms"... and there you demonstrate your knowledge...
 
Gary,

You forgot the cost for the G550 and me to fly it!

Oh wait...we have to amortize the jet also...and if you use it for any personal trips...well let's don't even go there!
 
Gary - Serious question here....

I was not aware of that fact you mentioned with regards to taxing $180k vs. $280k in your example above.

Is this something specific to Obama or just how businesses are taxed in general?

Interesting nonetheless.

Doug
 
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