I learned the hard way!

[garmett]

I just purchased a 320 Sundancer 06 model. I know that we will enjoy it very much. It was quite a large purchase for us. So we were very cautious and thought we had discussed and documented everything along the way with the individual we were purchasing from. Apparently not! Upon our Final Inspection of the boat I asked the question "does everything stay with the boat"? The reply was " only personal items we will be taking" ie.......fans, clothing, utensils out of galley etc. So when we showed up with the transport and trailer to haul the boat to a different lake for us, we could not find the Fenders. I called the seller, and his response was "I took them". ....and went on to tell me that he purchased these items for the boat when he purchased the boat. So I am sure he feels that they are his, but seems a bit petty when you consider the price of the boat.I should have been more specific and had all items written down on a Purchase Agreement that went with the boat.Even though they are part of the boats equipment and was never stated to be taken. So I share this with all of you to ensure this does not happen to you.

 

[electricaldoctor]

Going by his logic, you should feel fortunate that you even got the boat, because he had to buy that too. :grin:

 

[Wet Dogggg]

Must be a 320 thing, same thing kind of happened to us. I too did not list out the items I thought were coming with the boat. The biggest was the $200 in dock line he mentioned he was going to leave. I did put my foot down when I found the second shore power cord not there. We bought local, so I showed up at his front door and he handed that over. I too was not a happy camper. In the long run it is a minor bump in the road.

 

[garmett]

You are right!

 

[rondds]

As wise man (Frank Webster) told me, when I was going to contract on this boat, to get a list of the items that are going along with the boat. Flat screen TVs, fenders, dock lines, etc. I spoke to the dealer about this and, in the contract there was wording stating that the sale included everything shown in the photos and wording of the listing, as well as a "coast guard package" (to include fenders, dock lines, flares and life jackets already on the boat).

 

[alwhite00]

When I sold my first boat I sold it with everything - Lines, fenders, life jackets, dock pole, shore power cord, flat screen, etc. When I puoght my boat I have now I got nothing - I did manage to get a decent dock line because when we were swapping trailers the seller forgot it but other than that no lines, poles, feneders, etc - I learned my lesson.

LK

 

[Gofirstclass]

I guess you really do have to be specific when it comes to what goes and what stays. Like with all contract things, "the devil's in the details."

When I bought my 2nd 330 Sundancer the prior owner said the only thing he was taking off was his bottle of Tanqueray gin. That's the one thing I wished he'd have left. Just kidding. That made it real easy for us.

When I bought Beachcomber it came from a brokerage and it have all the USCG package items and dock lines and fenders but no dishes, glasses, silverware, pots and pans, etc. Needless to say, GW had a blast outfitting the boat.

 

[Mike Blake]

When I got the 340 the only thing we got was life vests. That was it.

 

[jrseitz]

When I bought my 260DA (used) from a Sea Ray Dealer in Indianapolis, there was an anchor and shore power cord and that was it. When I went to pick it up both of those items were GONE! I challenged the salesman on this and he replaced the items before I drove off of the lot. But there were no lines, fenders, life jackets or anything else on the boat and I knew that going into the deal.

 

[1956olds]

Thanks for posting ,as i am shopping for a

 

[Tomco]

We purchased our 340 last fall and I had written in 'all contents' into the contract. He ended up keeping his dishes, flatware and glasses as they were a wedding gift but we got all deck lines, 6 fenders, 2 GPS CMap cards, comforter, pillows, both power cords, EPIRB, and 8 brand new life jackets still in the packaging (although I have since found out that Canada will not accept USGC approved jackets - they need to be approved in Canada ... so if anyone needs some).

I took pictures of the inside and outside so with the 'all contents' clause, it was pretty easy to cross reference when we picked it up. For us, being our first crusiser, it worked out great having most of the equipement needed to get us on the water quickly.

 

[Zorba]

I bought this boat from a dealer and it came with 4 fenders, lines, plus whatever came from the boat factory. (decorative pillows, curtains, screens, tv's). The fenders and lines were not on the boat from the previous owner and were provided to me by my salesman free of charge. I purchased what folks are calling the coastguard package on my own.

I have to disagree though about expecting to get everything from a private sale. New boats do not come from the factory equipped with all the coast guards stuff or fenders or lines, and most likely was either provided by the dealer as part of the sale (hidden/built in cost) or purchased privately. I read that some folks are interested in the dishes even? Would you leave the dishes if you were selling your house? Plus would you really trust used dock lines? You don't know how they were treated or if they are at the end of their life. It may just be me, but if I were to buy a boat from a private seller all that I would expect would be what came on the boat when it rolled off the factory floor.

 

[rondds]

all that I would expect would be what came on the boat when it rolled off the factory floor

Good point. I think all this to be clarified at contract time - if you're promised stuff, it should be there when you take delivery. If nothing was discussed and listed, you can't assume anything.

 

[quality time]

Chances are the seller is going to leave you with the crappiest lines and fenders anyway. I for one, do not use mismatched docklines!

 

[Gofirstclass]

I have to disagree though about expecting to get everything from a private sale. New boats do not come from the factory equipped with all the coast guards stuff or fenders or lines, and most likely was either provided by the dealer as part of the sale (hidden/built in cost) or purchased privately. I read that some folks are interested in the dishes even? Would you leave the dishes if you were selling your house?

Often people will buy nautical themed dishes and glassware when they commission a new boat. As was the case with my 330, the people were getting out of boating and had no use for anything on the boat except for his bottle of gin. It never hurts to ask.

And yes, we did leave the furniture, decorations, dishes, pots and pans, glassware, kitchen utensils, etc., when we just sold our house in AZ. We had no use for them and priced those items separate from the house because the people wanted them. There was $9,000 worth of those extra items they bought when they bought the house.

 

[Zorba]

Often people will buy nautical themed dishes and glassware when they commission a new boat. As was the case with my 330, the people were getting out of boating and had no use for anything on the boat except for his bottle of gin. It never hurts to ask.

And yes, we did leave the furniture, decorations, dishes, pots and pans, glassware, kitchen utensils, etc., when we just sold our house in AZ. We had no use for them and priced those items separate from the house because the people wanted them. There was $9,000 worth of those extra items they bought when they bought the house.

I'm not disagreeing. If a person is getting out of boating then I guess they would have no issues leaving their personal items. As you stated it never hurts to ask.

I guess you can make a case for a second home being bought and/or sold furnished but I don't think you can upsell a boat by saying it comes with dishes. I personally would not want those items nor would expect them.

 

[alnav]

I learned this lesson from both directions. When I sold a sailboat a number of years ago, I had taken off everything I wanted to keep prior to the boat being shown. I left the factory/dealer originally provided full set of safety gear, linen, cushions along with branded kitchen gear and a full set of mooring lines along with extra sailing stuff. When we did the sea trial just before closing, I brought several folding seats just to make everyone comfortable; they weren't ever there while the boat was being shown. At the conclusion of the successful sea trial, the buyer very pointedly gathered up all the seats and put them away. Happy to have made the sale, I didn't say anything but it kind of torqued me off. So, be careful on the selling side as well.

I bought a powerboat about the same time. It was kept a ways away in a small private marine without a lot of services and was in an exposed slip. After the close, I met the PO at the boat for a turnover (probably a mistake). He did provide a few useful tips but was also packing up most anything that was not fastened to the boat, most of which I didn't care about. But, it told me that the extra 50', 50 amp shore power cable was his along with the large fenders that protected the boat in its current slip were not included as well. Without the extra cable I would have had to secure shore power due to the configuration of the slip and the fenders were also desirable for protection. Since I had already planned to keep the boat where it was for a few weeks, I was pretty much over a barrel and had to fork over an extra $800 to keep these items before he carted them off. Shame on me for not being particular as to these details in advance.

 

[boatrboy]

Chances are the seller is going to leave you with the crappiest lines and fenders anyway. I for one, do not use mismatched docklines!

I was thinking the same thing - Many times the fenders are so dirty that they do more damage than help. I fit my fender lines exactly the way I want them too and new dock lines are always nice :smt001. Good luck with the new boat! Mark