How Do You Get at Stuff in the 320 Engine Compartment

Discussion in 'Newbie Lounge - NEW' started by 320Bob, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. 320Bob

    320Bob Active Member

    Nov 2, 2009
    AZ
    2012 Chaparral 267 SSX Sold
    Boatless
    I was up at Chicago Sea Ray yesterday to do so work on the boat and opened the engine hatch fully to familiarize myself where various maintenance items were located. As shown in the attached picture, the generator is in the vary back and my question to you guys is how does one reach its sea strainer short of having to lie on one of the engines?
     

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  2. hack4alivin

    hack4alivin Active Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 18, 2008
    Joppa, Maryland
    320 Dancer
    Twin 350 V Drives
    Well they often tease me at my Marina for being short (5 7). But it does have its advantages!
     
  3. hack4alivin

    hack4alivin Active Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 18, 2008
    Joppa, Maryland
    320 Dancer
    Twin 350 V Drives
    Seriously though, there is no easy way except by watching where you step and go carefully.

    I would like to mention though when I first got the boat I was coming out of the bilge after cleaning the strainer for the A/C and generator. While climbing out my foot came in contact with something by the starboard engine starter. When I did that engine tried to start which scared the crap out of me. Of course without the key on and the switch engaged no fuel would get to the engine to allow it to fire, but it did attempt to turn over. I did post that info on the site here, and pretty much got a response like, “there is no way that should happen”. Well no way or not it did, so now I make sure my batteries are off before climbing around down there unless I need them start the generator.
     
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  4. Pseudomind

    Pseudomind Active Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    Jacksonville, FL
    2011 Hurricane with Magic Tilt Trailer
    115 HP Yamaha Four Stroke
    Sometimes it has to do with that commercial which has this word in it "Priceless Moment" or something to that affect.

    I have a bit more room and for some things. It is just better for me to pay the piper. :huh: :thumbsup:
     
  5. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    :lol::lol: I actually thought you were being serious, until I got to the last sentence. I was thinking "OK, I guess a nice warm engine could do that..."

    I've seen some use a piece of 2x12 to lay across the engines - might be about 3' or 4' long. I would think a piece of wrestling mat-type foam (very dense) could work nicely, too.
     
  6. Mr Salt

    Mr Salt New Member

    632
    Jun 14, 2008
    Cape May, NJ
    Raymarine/Raytheon electronics, Sat TV, Yacht Controller
    2003 Caterpillar C-12s Twin Disc Transmissions
    I have a huge engine room that you can stand up in and the only place that the engines have problems are those few places that are difficult to get to. There is a thin guy at the marina shop who does those things for me. I guess the answer is lose weight.
     
  7. skolbe

    skolbe Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    320 Sundancer, Mercury 310 Sport Inflatable Tohatsu 6HP
    350 Mag V-Drive - Kohler 5ecd
    I will admit the first time in the bilge was overwhelming. But once you get used to it and you learn where to stand - it gets better. It still is tight.
     
  8. dpmulvey

    dpmulvey New Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Homeport: Charles City, VA
    1999/2007 330 Sundancer Hardtop.
    6.2 Merc Horixons
    1.5:1 Velvet Drives
    Man! And I thought it was cramped in Saint Max' ER.
     
  9. 320Bob

    320Bob Active Member

    Nov 2, 2009
    AZ
    2012 Chaparral 267 SSX Sold
    Boatless
    This was the precisely the thought that occurred to me to lay on a board stretched accross the compartment to access the generator. The other thought I had was having the French guy in MI III hold the rope like he did for the one that suspended Tom Cruise in the computer room!:grin:
     
  10. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    Extend a boom off your arch and you might be able to do that! How cool would that be!:grin: "Alright... Lower me down, I'm going in".


    You mentioned "stretched across the compartment". If you do that, I don't think you'd be able to reach things easily - they'll still be kind of far away (below you). But, you can put the board on top of the risers, or anything else that's solid.

    Or, possibly....... If you could make a little contraption that would allow the board to hang below the deck level, but just above the engines. The board could be just short of the length (fore - aft) of the compartment opening. With some type of hook system that would drop into the groove around the compartment. Then, allowing the board to "float" lower than the deck floor, but just above the engine.
     
  11. Summerwind

    Summerwind New Member

    275
    Aug 21, 2008
    Phila
    2008 Formula 310 Sun Sport
    377 x 2 w/BIII
    That is tight and Im thinking even with ODs, it still would be tight but maybe with ODs SR moves the gene midship. Good luck.
     
  12. trit21

    trit21 Active Member

    Dec 16, 2007
    Live, Orlando: Boat, Ft. Pierce
    See signature
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    Actually, you can sit on the risers and access the generator pretty nicely. i guess it depends on how tall you are but it does work. Don't put all your weight on the risers but it is pretty accessible that way. Able to change oil, filter and one of the plugs that way. Seen the mechanics doing it that way and it is pretty good.
     
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  13. Bill Z

    Bill Z New Member

    150
    Nov 27, 2004
    Clifton Park N.Y.
    320 Sundancer
    Twin 6.2 Horizons
    Never been in the engine room. That is what we have mechanics for. I know that at some point I will have to but am in denial.!
     
  14. skolbe

    skolbe Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    320 Sundancer, Mercury 310 Sport Inflatable Tohatsu 6HP
    350 Mag V-Drive - Kohler 5ecd
    It's really not too bad once you figure out where to place your feet. I sit on the risers all the time and really have learned how to access everything fairly well. The biggest issue, is the impellers in the motors.
     
  15. JV II

    JV II Active Member

    Nov 17, 2007
    Newport, RI
    2016 50 Fly
    Volvo Penta D11
    There sure is a lot of stuff in the ER of the 320 with the small blocks. That is a common problem in many cruisers. There is no way around it except to step carefully and lay on top of the engines. Always wear shoes. I cut open my foot once.

    The 330 is the replacement for the 320. They addressed the engine room problem somewhat. The V-D 330 still has the generator aft of the engines. The big blocks eat up the additional space provided by the redesigned hull. I can't imagine having to do routine maintenance on the generator in that location. Despite all that, access appears to be better than the 320.

    For comparison, check out the 330 engine room with I/Os.

    http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22987&highlight=engine+room+pics+330
     
  16. searaycruisn

    searaycruisn New Member

    242
    Nov 10, 2006
    Old Saybrook, CT
    2000 380 Sundancer
    CAT 3126
    I have had the misfortune of helping out a friend several times on his 320. Once we even changed the raw water pump. The damn thing is on the bottom of the engine....it was horrible.

    Also, on several occations, he has kicked or pulled on a connector, or triped a breaker, which required a technician to find because the engine would not start. This happend on more than one occasion.

    This is a serious issue on that boat. If you are a do it yourself person, this may not be the boat for you, because you will be very frustrated working in there.
     
  17. skolbe

    skolbe Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    320 Sundancer, Mercury 310 Sport Inflatable Tohatsu 6HP
    350 Mag V-Drive - Kohler 5ecd
    The engine impellers are the only really big issue. The generator is easy to get around.
     
  18. JV II

    JV II Active Member

    Nov 17, 2007
    Newport, RI
    2016 50 Fly
    Volvo Penta D11
    Easy?
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    This is easy:
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  19. skolbe

    skolbe Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    320 Sundancer, Mercury 310 Sport Inflatable Tohatsu 6HP
    350 Mag V-Drive - Kohler 5ecd
    Once you figure out where to place your feet. It is not bad. After owning a Bravo III - I will take a crammed bilge over the issues that people face with outdrives. If you go with outdrives the 320 bilge is roomy. It's all a trade off.
     
  20. Bridog

    Bridog Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Gulf Shores AL / Brick NJ
    2016 19SPX OB
    Mercury 150 4S OB
    Touche' :smt043 But remember... Mike has the new and improved Mercury "SeaCore drives" that don't have any issues.:grin:
     

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