How Do You Get at Stuff in the 320 Engine Compartment

Discussion in 'Newbie Lounge - NEW' started by 320Bob, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. skolbe

    skolbe Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    320 Sundancer, Mercury 310 Sport Inflatable Tohatsu 6HP
    350 Mag V-Drive - Kohler 5ecd
    We bought our boats about the same time. Overall I am happy although, I have had a few issues with the Kohler 5ecd. I would prefer to buy marine technology that has been out for years, because you are a beta tester when it comes to Mercury.
     
  2. JV II

    JV II Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 17, 2007
    Newport, RI
    2016 50 Fly
    Volvo Penta D11
    The Bravo III has been out for 16 years. It has been improved over the years thanks to the beta testers. The SeaCore package adds more corrosion resistance. Basically, its the same drive with a hard anodized surface, painted just the same, with stainless in areas that they learned were prone to corrosion, fresh water cooling, and the heavy duty Mercathodes. Improvements to years-old technology. Sea Ray put the SeaCore Bravo III package on everything up to the 38DA in 2009. Properly maintained, even the late model non-SeaCore Bravo III won't corrode. Its a pretty bullet proof drivetrain.

    Back to the subject. I think it is funny to hear someone say it is easy to work on a generator heavily guarded and surrounded by two 6.2L V8s and a transom under the hinged end of the hatch in a 320.

    I'm not bashing the boat. Its a great boat.
     
  3. jpk33

    jpk33 New Member

    654
    Feb 10, 2008
    NW Indiana
    2004 380DA
    Twin 8.1 Horizon 370HP
    One word (or is it two??) SPIDERMONKEY! If you dont have one then you can use a large furniture (moving) pad folded multiple times, nothing makes it easier unless you move up to a bigger boat!
     
  4. hack4alivin

    hack4alivin Active Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 18, 2008
    Joppa, Maryland
    320 Dancer
    Twin 350 V Drives
    I just recently changed the oil and filter and the impeller on my generator. Now I am not going to say it was an “easy” job, but as things go when working on boats, it was not difficult either.

    Climbing over the engine and laying on top the generator was not difficult. The key is to make sure you bring everything you need including the right tools into the engine room with you. Once you have managed yourself in there you don’t want to have to keep coming out because you forgot something. And again as I said in my previous post being caring where you step will avoid issues of knocking out plugs and other bad things that can happen when you put weight on things you shouldn’t.

    Now changing the impellers on the engines, that is a different thing all together. That is a job I would rather pay someone to do.
     
  5. HUMPH

    HUMPH Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2009
    SF BAY AREA
    2003 410DA,
    2004 C14 Caribe
    CAT 3126TA's 350HP/
    50HP Honda
    So..... I am 6' 3" about 225 lbs and trying to pick up a 320, and I tend to do a lot of my own maintenance. I am screwed?
     
  6. JV II

    JV II Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 17, 2007
    Newport, RI
    2016 50 Fly
    Volvo Penta D11
    No, those long arms will come in handy. Now, the v-berth, that's another story altogether.
     
  7. Alex F

    Alex F Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 14, 2006
    East Coast
    2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Dual E120 MFD/Radar/XMWeather, ST7001 A/P, AIS, SeaLift
    T-Cummins 450Cs Straight-Drives, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
    I'll try to explain how I do it, but a picture would be worth 1000 words.

    First, I don't ever lay on top of the engines and would hate seeing anyone do it in my boat. I have one of the flame arestor covers cracked, which I guess is the result of someone sitting on it. This was before I got the boat.

    Placing your feet is the key. So, here're couple of shots.

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    I use spots #1 and #2 very often (same goes for the brockets on the other side). These are transmission brackets and are very solid, so no way to harm them.

    An example of getting to batteries or starboard side seacock I would place myself facing the starboard side, place my right foot on spot #2 and right foot on spot #4 (can't see it very good in the picture but there's a spot to the right of the seacock).

    To get to the port side seacock I would face port side placing my left leg in the spot #3 and right foot in spot #1.


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    While working either on back of the engines or genny I would place my feet on top of the muflers (spots 5, 6 or 7 and 8) and sit on those large exaust pipes coming from elbows.

    The fact that I'm not a big person helps a lot in this engine room, but even for anyone larger size the key remains placing their feet in good spots. When I just got the boat I first took some time and analyzed possible safe and solid spots to step onto and then tried a few times. When this part was clear the rest was just mechanics.

    Btw, to get to the back of the engine room I always step on the elbows (solid metal, whcih no way to hert).

    If I need to sit on top of the engines or generator I would use one of these to soften the weight distribution.

    [​IMG]

    Hope this helps a little.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2009
  8. skolbe

    skolbe Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    320 Sundancer, Mercury 310 Sport Inflatable Tohatsu 6HP
    350 Mag V-Drive - Kohler 5ecd
    I am 6' - 2" and 215 lbs. I don't have issues, the engine impeller(s) is/are one thing I have not tackled. I sleep great in the forward berth with my wife. I slept terribly on my 260 in the aft cabin.
     
  9. skolbe

    skolbe Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    320 Sundancer, Mercury 310 Sport Inflatable Tohatsu 6HP
    350 Mag V-Drive - Kohler 5ecd
    Alex - what do you have you bilge heater sitting on?
     
  10. Hampton

    Hampton Air Defense Dept TECHNICAL Contributor

    Nov 26, 2006
    Panama City, Fl
    2008 44 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSC-500's
    Straight Drives
    Guys, I heard (read) many of you say that the 340 is the same. It is not. If you are big and a do-it-yourselfer, check out the 340. The forward berth is larger than that of the 320 and 360, and there is about 8X as much working room in the ER. I sit behind the engines to do work at that end.
     
  11. 320Bob

    320Bob Active Member

    Nov 2, 2009
    AZ
    2012 Chaparral 267 SSX Sold
    Boatless
    Show us a picture of your spacious 340 engine compartment so I and others can see what we are missing!:grin:
     
  12. Hampton

    Hampton Air Defense Dept TECHNICAL Contributor

    Nov 26, 2006
    Panama City, Fl
    2008 44 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSC-500's
    Straight Drives
    Give me a few days. I didn't say spacious. Just way different from a 320.
     
  13. 320Bob

    320Bob Active Member

    Nov 2, 2009
    AZ
    2012 Chaparral 267 SSX Sold
    Boatless
    I'll help you out with a photo from a 2004 340 for sale boat. Does this look like your engine compartment?
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2009
  14. CJ Martin

    CJ Martin Member

    762
    Oct 4, 2006
    Great Mills, MD
    2002 320DA
    350MAG Horizons / V-drives
    Huh, so where is the genset located in the 340DA?

    To the original poster - some tasks in the engine compartment are easy, most are not.

    Changing the oil in the mains is easy (so long as you don't overtighten the filters), the genset is not too bad either. Checking the oil level in the mains is easy, the genset not so much. Checking the trannys is easy, and I imagine changing a starter would be easy as well.

    All coolent (FWC) and the tab fluid level is easy to see, moderate to a pain in the butt to actually add fluid. Acess to the hot water heater and fresh water pump is not bad. Access to the batteries is ok for the inboard pair and a pain for the outboard pair.

    Seacocks for the mains are a bit of a stretch but not too bad. Strainers for the mains are easy to get to. Seacocks for the A/C and genset, as well as those strainers are a pain in the butt. Acess to the bilge pumps and switches is horrible.

    It does get better once you figure out where to step and how to get around, but it is a compromise design. Go to an auto parts store and buy an inspection mirror on a stick, a magnetic grabber on a stick, and one of the finger grabber thingies as you will drop things and they will instantly vanish.

    The older I get, the more inclined I am to write the check...

    -CJ
     
  15. trit21

    trit21 New Member

    Dec 16, 2007
    Live, Orlando: Boat, Ft. Pierce
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    You didn't say spacious that is true, you said 8X the room. I have worked in both a 320 and 340, and yes there is a difference but I don't care what boat you are in, working between the engines is almost impossible on both boats.
     
  16. Pseudomind

    Pseudomind Active Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    Jacksonville, FL
    2011 Hurricane with Magic Tilt Trailer
    115 HP Yamaha Four Stroke

    What model boat is this picture from, looks like plenty of room?
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2009
  17. Hampton

    Hampton Air Defense Dept TECHNICAL Contributor

    Nov 26, 2006
    Panama City, Fl
    2008 44 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSC-500's
    Straight Drives
    That's the ER. As you can see in the pic, behind the engines there is room to sit down and clean strainers, service all of the accessories, service the genny (to stbd), and just about anything you need to do back there. You can slide in between the engines from behind to get at fuel filters...

    Don't get me wrong. It's not that I'm dissin' the 320. It's a great boat. I've tried to help a friend in his bilge. I was no help. I do most of the work on my 340. They are different.
     
  18. Pseudomind

    Pseudomind Active Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    Jacksonville, FL
    2011 Hurricane with Magic Tilt Trailer
    115 HP Yamaha Four Stroke

    Which ER you talking about my post with the picture from a quote from another, JuliaValentine or the 340 ER from 320Bob?
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2009
  19. Hampton

    Hampton Air Defense Dept TECHNICAL Contributor

    Nov 26, 2006
    Panama City, Fl
    2008 44 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSC-500's
    Straight Drives
    320Bob - Bad timing on the post.
     
  20. Bridog

    Bridog Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Gulf Shores AL / Brick NJ
    2016 19SPX OB
    Mercury 150 4S OB
    8X the room? Sure thing Hampton.
     

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