Honda Genny in a Box?

MonacoMike said:
CO requires management in all situations from all sources. The Coast Guard says NO portable generator has an electrical system or gasoline system that is CG approved.

I don't care if any of you use one or not, but we have complete novices come to this site for guidance and any post promoting portable generator use on a boat is a danger to these people's lives as they may not have your knowledge or background to protect their families.

MM
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While that is true the portables are not USCG approved because they don't have to be.
 
Mike I don't think anyone will listen to someone that screams danger so loud. People are not quite so simple as you elude to. I beileve "newbys" will research like any other sane person, and do their due diligence. Folks that don't are probably the ones texting while driving, or still don't believe smoking will cause cancer.

I say, give them reasonable positives and negatives, and let them do as they are comfortable. Screaming, "don't do it you will die" will undermine your credibility and get you discounted.
 
MonacoMike said:
CO requires management in all situations from all sources. The Coast Guard says NO portable generator has an electrical system or gasoline system that is CG approved.

I don't care if any of you use one or not, but we have complete novices come to this site for guidance and any post promoting portable generator use on a boat is a danger to these people's lives as they may not have your knowledge or background to protect their families.

MM
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Seems like a lot of people think everything on a boat 'must' be USCG approved..when it comes to generators the key is who put them there and whether they're 'on' or 'in'. How about life rafts...you'd think there'd be a USCG approval needed on a life raft wouldn't you...I used to...but those that I looked at aren't.
 
Woody said:
Seems like a lot of people think everything on a boat 'must' be USCG approved..when it comes to generators the key is who put them there and whether they're 'on' or 'in'.
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Woody, you are right. You can haul all the non CG approved generators you want but when that plug is plugged in and that engine started it better be to CG fuel and electrical standards. Curious if marine insurers have an opinion on if they would cover portable generator use on a vessel they insure?

MM
 
Ok let's go to the electrical issue. If the portable generator is NOT tied to the boat's AC system does that "floating ground" issue still occur? Wouldn't that be just like using it home? In the garage? (sarcasm).
 
So what about that BBQ a lot of people have on their swim platform or hanging off the side of the boat. It produces a lot of CO as well plus has an open flame. Is it CG approved? What about all your electrical appliances, are they CG approved?
 
MonacoMike said:
CO requires management in all situations from all sources. The Coast Guard says NO portable generator has an electrical system or gasoline system that is CG approved.

I don't care if any of you use one or not, but we have complete novices come to this site for guidance and any post promoting portable generator use on a boat is a danger to these people's lives as they may not have your knowledge or background to protect their families.

MM
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I agree:thumbsup:. Some people see and hear only what they want to see and hear when seeking advice. In cases like this ignorance or lack of experience may be fatal. Best to play it safe. Remember the guy who decided to store his propane tank IN the cockpit, because "it should be well ventilated, shouldn't it?" And this was AFTER being told that propane is heavier than air and will sink and accumulate in a bilge.:smt021. Sure hope he re read the thread. I'm still concerned for him and his family.
 
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You can't protect stupid or arrogant, I don't care how much you warn and try to give advise. There are some people that ask a question to only want to hear someone say yes, do it. They don't hear all advise and make a judgement based upon sound feedback.

We can't protect people from themselves nor can we be responsible for bad decision making.

Besides it not our job to decide what is safe or not for other people. Give a warning, give some sound advise and feed back, give some OE (operational experience), then hope they take the proper precautions or opt to not participate. That is all we can do.
 
I believe those who believe the use of a Honda should be outlawed need only to call the POTUS. He'll make sure the government tells you what is best for you.

Just sayin'
 
I believe there is a general consensus here that portable generator use is at best risky and dangerous to the point of needing knowledgable management. My wish is for those who want to to be free to use portable generators, but to stop posts that make it seem simple and not risky to those that may not know.

MM
 
Well I should be safe then, I have a Yamaha generator :smt043:smt100
 
MonacoMike said:
I believe there is a general consensus here that portable generator use is at best risky and dangerous to the point of needing knowledgable management. My wish is for those who want to to be free to use portable generators, but to stop posts that make it seem simple and not risky to those that may not know.

MM
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I believe there is a general consensus here that portable generator use is at best risky and dangerous to the point of needing knowledgable management. My wish is for those who want to to be free to use portable generators, but to stop posts that make it seem simple and not risky to those that may not know.


MM

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I'll take it one step further as most of us would agree that the use of gas generators (portable or fixed mount) is at best risky and dangerous to the point of needing knowledgeable management.

If you don't think so, you are just a fool.

I would also add that gas engine do not belong in an enclosed space such like an engine room on a boat, but that is an entirely different discussion but the same knowledgable management skills need to be addresses when running a gas engine.
 
dpmulvey said:
I believe those who believe the use of a Honda should be outlawed need only to call the POTUS. He'll make sure the government tells you what is best for you.

Just sayin'
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Na, the POTUS is busy doing stuff, he'd probably be hard to get a hold of. Just call MM...he knows what's best for you:smt043
 
trit21 said:
I'll take it one step further as most of us would agree that the use of gas generators (portable or fixed mount) is at best risky and dangerous to the point of needing knowledgeable management.

If you don't think so, you are just a fool.

I would also add that gas engine do not belong in an enclosed space such like an engine room on a boat, but that is an entirely different discussion but the same knowledgeable management skills need to be addresses when running a gas engine.
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I was thinking exactly that while following this whole thread.
It's amusing to me how conservative some are against the use of certain things. It's all about learning the items, understanding how they work, how to use them and how to eliminate or reduce the risks involved. As Trit21 stated "knowledgeable management skills"
Personally I have no problem using one to charge our batteries mid day while on the hook for a long weekend. I'm sure the scuba diving we do in between is much more risky, not to mention everything else we do in everyday life.
 
I really think all of the portable generator promoters should start their own forum just to promote it. You could probably get Honda to sponsor it, heck, you might even get your very own Honda Marine generator covers with your club logo on it. You could do roll calls regularly to be certain everybody survived the weekend and if some don't make it you can discuss how inept they were in managing the risk of portable generators. All in all sounds like a fun forum...

MM
 
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