Have You Been Boarded By CG With Weapons Onboard?

[MonacoMike]

How did that go?

What type of weapons?

Anything you would do differently after that experience?

MM

Would have bet a fortune I put this in the "general" section...

 

[magstang1]

I was boarded with no weapons aboard. I informed them there were none present and they never asked about it again.

Not exactly what you are asking but still relevant.

 

[dpmulvey]

There is no problem with carrying weapons aboard. That don't want to find one by surprise and wonder what else could go wrong. That's not from me, it's from the boarding officer a couple of years ago.

 

[firecadet613]

Except we want to know what happens when you say "Yes". Clearly if no one steps forth, that must mean that nobody has ever survived the experience......

Correct. You hear about all these boardings....but no one states if they have had weapons on board. Just think...when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. How far away would the Coast Guard be?

 

[dwna1a]

Yes, with a loaded Sig. Showed the permit up front, don't try to hide it from them. Told them where it was, what it was. They looked at the permit and never asked anything more about it. The boarding Officer was very nice as was his partner. The point here...be up front!

 

[Mike Blake]

Except we want to know what happens when you say "Yes". Clearly if no one steps forth, that must mean that nobody has ever survived the experience......

Scott that happened to me. They Keep everyone up top ad they go get the weapon

 

[firecadet613]

I wonder, is a boat an extension of your home? I have a Indiana gun permit, which makes me legal to carry a gun, concealed or not. I imagine you do not need a permit to keep a weapon at home...how about the boat?

Illinois is an interesting problem. They are very anti-gun. My vessel is banned from IL waters due to my political beliefs, but let's say I went there, and had a gun in the cabin of the boat. I am legal to do so in IN, no question. If my boat is considered a home, then I would think I would be legal in IL as well, so long as I didn't remove it from the boat and carry it.

I'm thinking it's probably best just to leave it at home if I am going to Illinois.....

With the passage of the IL Carry laws in the past year, you can carry in IL in your vehicle. If you exit the vehicle (Get out to pump gas), your a felon. Can't leave the vehicle armed unless you have their out of state permit. IANAL, but the way the law is worded, you should be fine to carry on board. I'm not going to be the test case however, it is a very large lake.

Scott that happened to me. They Keep everyone up top ad they go get the weapon

Interesting. I'm curious how they would have handled that if the weapon was locked up in the cabin? How would they access it if there is no key access?

 

[my3sons]

I think a lot depends on where you are. My experience has been that once the permit is shown, they relax. They probably realize that a guy and his wife that have both been permitted for over thirty years in a gun unfriendly state like NY should be canonized, not hassled. It has never been a big deal. But around here, you always have to be aware of where that international boundary is. In a related thread earlier today about coast guard boarding, I made mention of a hassle I had once. It was a Canadian customs boat, and after entering my personal info into their computer, they immediately asked if I had any weapons on board. The reply was no. they asked a couple more questions, then asked about the guns again, and I replied no. When they asked a third time, I asked them where they were going with this, and he said he was "just giving me a chance to tell him up front about anything I might want to say, because if I was lying, and he found a weapon, I was going to wish I was never born, this isn't America". I then made a comment about how crystal clear that was, and then I had to waste the best part of a Sunday afternoon watching them tear my 330 apart. Just as an item of note, Fast forward 6 months , Karen and I are crossing into Canada at the Lewiston Queenston bridge, we are sitting at the stop line waiting for the Canadian customs inspector to finish with the car ahead of us, and Karen sees the inspector and says " OMG, it's the guy that boarded our boat last summer" I said are you sure, and the reply was she would remember his face until the day she died. Upon pulling up and finishing our questioning, I asked him if he recalled our incident. He smiled and said no, not at all, to which Karen said she would never forget it, He laughed and said I do that all the time, it's my job, don't worry about it, you were obviously fine or I would remember you, now move along and have a nice day.

 

[JV II]

Not yet, but if I do, it is on me or in a locked container or has a lock through the action. I'm ready for that any day they decide to board. The guns will be the least of my concerns.

 

[Chris Nowell]

Wow, am I ever glad we live in an area where the average person doesn't even NEED to carry a gun.:thumbsup: Only the gangsters do, but theirs are usually automatics these days.:smt018 As far as the boat goes, the flair gun will have to be our weapon of choice if the need should arise,,, Heaven forbid:smt009 God bless you folks down there and be safe.

 

[ttmott]

Florida law is crystal clear. You have the right to possess a hand gun provided you are not a convicted criminal. Hand guns purchased through a registered firearms dealer must be vetted for criminal history as determined by local ordinance however private exchange requires no filing or reporting. There is no requirement to register a fire arm. You need not declare a fire arm to any law enforcement if in a vehicle (unclear as to a vessel however there is precedence to requirements for fire arms in home or vehicle). When located in a vehicle a hand gun must have a separate positive action required to withdraw (ie in a glove box, snapped and secure holster, or secure container). State law is the ruling law except when on federal property. There are conditional restrictions as to where a fire arm can be possessed (not at schools, public events, etc). Now, we maintain a hand gun on the vessel when traveling but not at the slip or local use. The weapon is maintained in a locked container that to access requires a cipher but is easy for an authorized withdraw. I've had vessel safety inspections multiple times and the fire arm has not been a point of discussion. The vessel has been boarded twice by Florida Fish and Wildlife officers and no discussion nor disclosure was requested or rendered. If asked by the coast guard I would certainly submit there was a fire arm on board and that it was secure per requirements but that would be the end of the discussion. Now if the boat was in a different state I would have to comply as required to that state's requirements however I understand most recognize requirements from your registered and home state; I'm sure there are exceptions however.

 

[KC_Sundancer]

Wow, am I ever glad we live in an area where the average person doesn't even NEED to carry a gun.:thumbsup: Only the gangsters do, but theirs are usually automatics these days.:smt018 As far as the boat goes, the flair gun will have to be our weapon of choice if the need should arise,,, Heaven forbid:smt009 God bless you folks down there and be safe.

No different here, we only carry to protect us from all the illegals being smuggled across the lakes and rivers from your side. :grin:

 

[ImpulseIII]

I wonder, is a boat an extension of your home? I have a Indiana gun permit, which makes me legal to carry a gun, concealed or not. I imagine you do not need a permit to keep a weapon at home...how about the boat?

Illinois is an interesting problem. They are very anti-gun. My vessel is banned from IL waters due to my political beliefs, but let's say I went there, and had a gun in the cabin of the boat. I am legal to do so in IN, no question. If my boat is considered a home, then I would think I would be legal in IL as well, so long as I didn't remove it from the boat and carry it.

I'm thinking it's probably best just to leave it at home if I am going to Illinois.....

In NJ and many other states, a boat is only an extension of your home while tied up to the dock or on a mooring at your home port. Once underway, it is a boat and the law permitting homeowners to have weapons in their homes goes overboard.

 

[JV II]

No different here, we only carry to protect us from all the illegals being smuggled across the lakes and rivers from your side. :grin:

:thumbsup:
I should get rid of that fire extinguisher because the average boater doesn't NEED it. Only the Coast Guard and police need fire extinguishers. As far as my boat goes, a bucket will be the fire extinguisher of choice, heaven forbid I ever need it.

 

[wetpaint]

Always be truthful as your prints, information, background check, etc. are in the computer and they KNOW (just like police if you are stopped). Always keep locked and secure and you should not have issue. Traveling out of states you need to really look into countries laws and know them!

 

[Gofirstclass]

Wow, am I ever glad we live in an area where the average person doesn't even NEED to carry a gun. Only the gangsters do, but theirs are usually automatics these days. As far as the boat goes, the flair gun will have to be our weapon of choice if the need should arise,,, Heaven forbid. God bless you folks down there and be safe.

Chris, I usually have one on board when we're overnighting on the boat, but otherwise no. That started after an experience many years ago when I was anchored out in a backwater area along the Columbia. I was awakened in the middle of the night by the sound of a small outboard motor slowly idling alongside my boat. I got up and peeked out of the cabin and watched as a small, aluminum boat with two guys in it circled my boat twice then motored about 20 yards away and shut off the motor.

I could hear them talking in low tones but couldn't hear what they were saying. They sat there for about 10 minutes then idled away. I didn't see any fishing gear and that made me wonder why they were out in the middle of the night like that.

I felt defenseless against anything they might have considered doing to me and after that I usually have put a small handgun on board. I'd rather have it and not need it than vice versa.

 

[IanBat]

I'm shuddering, at least here you know your not armed and there is a 99.9% chance their not.




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[mainstream]

I believe it all depends on who has the jurisdiction if you are say on inland water ways which fall under the state local state and cg you better hope your lic reciprocates with the state like you leave nh waters and cross into mass waters with a weapon even ln a locked box federal laws say you can travel for one spot where your lic is valid to another where your lic is valid passing through non reciprocating states as long as you don't stop. In mass you bet your going to be arrested but once in US water not under local juristdiction you should be ok.

 

[trit21]

We were boarded 6 miles offshore and had a Glock on board. They asked, we said yes, told them I had a concealed permit and they said that would only matter if I had it on me which I did not. Told them where the weapon was, they cleared it and separated the ammo from the pistol itself placing them in 'hidden' places on the boat. Did the inspection and at the end they told me where they placed the ammo and weapon. They left, I found the stuff and went along our way. Kind of a PIA these CG people are actually. Glad they are there when I need them but wish they didn't have the right to search your vessel for no reason at all. Safety inspection is just a bunch of crap for 'we want to search your ass for no other reason except that WE CAN'.

 

[The Bill Collector]

When we leave the dock we are armed. I do have a conceal carry, but I have been under the impression that my vessel is my home and I have the right in the state of Washington to have it on board even if I didn't have the permit. The same goes for us when traveling in our motor"home" and we have the right to have it with us.... I think they call the 2nd amendment ???

Now with that being said when we travel to Canada we NEVER take them with us !!!