Drunk. High. And a sea ray (Multi-page thread 1 2)

Trit21, you are correct about the YF and Contender, as well as many, many other CC's. From a resale standpoint, I also agree on the SeaRays, meaning there are many of them.

The gist of this thread, I think is, the not liking the broad brush painting of SeaRay owners as arrogant, foolish, drunken and (add your nasty thoughts here....). What hurts good SeaRay owners is that with any comments like this, is the element of truth. Element, meaning there are some.

In my marina, we have some real jerks and horses behinds that own SeaRay's as well as other nice cruisers, flybridges and the like. They are exception, not the rule.

By that same token, there are many fisherman "types", "bass boats", CC's etc that are just as bad and if I wanted to, could be made out like the thread in THT only reading "Fishing Types.....(fill in with unkind expletives). But what would that serve?

SeaRay is my boat of choice, I love my old girl and if I had the money, I'd have a newer or perhaps larger one. I also very much like a Viking, Hatty or a custom Carolina, but that will probably never come to pass for many reasons. I find CC's very nice boats too. I even like sailboats, if not always liking the owners. I LIKE ALL boats, just about.

What I find offensive, is the nastiness of certain owners of all types of boats, feeling they are superior to someone else for whatever reason they feel. Sure, we can all take pride in our boats, feel our boats are our best choices. But no one is superior, or better than someone. If you want to ask me my thoughts on 1998 330DA's, I can give you my opinion, and I will tell you the good the bad and the ugly. But it is my thoughts. If you have a Bayliner, it doesn't make you less of a boater than I. Nor do I feel my boat is inferior to something nicer.

I have lurked on THT for over a year. I have never posted. I very much like the site, it has different topics about our passion. Some I know nothing about, mostly, its main course, fishing! But I love the restore and cold molded threads.

I haven't posted here in a while either, but that is just a choice. I love this site as well, in fact, my day always starts with a quick scroll through the "last 24 hours"! But this thread is one I feel I can contribute.

People will be people. We all have a certain amount of self importance, feel we have a great point of view, our methods are the right ones, and that our experiences are worth telling to the world. I suppose this is all true, myself very much included. But our "way" does NOT makes us better than each other. I think that is what THT's thread is showing the worst of.

Matt



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trit21 said:
Ahhh no. Ever priced out a 34 Yellowfin or Contender? Especially one that has all the electronics on it, expensive and they hold their value much better than a SeaRay. Problem with SeaRay is exactly what has been said here, so many of them drives the price way down. Neighbor is trying to sell his 34 Sundancer and the prices his broker keeps telling him it is not worth taking the huge hit. Just to many for sale. Some of these CC start at over $500,000.
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On my lake Tiara owners are loud drunks with over priced shoe looking boats.....
 
Name calling….pretty typical I guess. Not sure why you thought you had to attack but some people just can't get along with others. I will assume you didn't read my first post. Shoe looking boats? Might want to take a look at the 390 and 480MY, if you want to talk about shoes.
 
trit21 said:
Name calling….pretty typical I guess. Not sure why you thought you had to attack but some people just can't get along with others. I will assume you didn't read my first post. Shoe looking boats? Might want to take a look at the 390 and 480MY, if you want to talk about shoes.
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I'm getting the popcorn.....
 
Generalizations are very interesting but not very informative.....I live and boat on the South Shore of Long Island.......I've owned two Sundancers and three Sea Ray bridge boats.....i also own a 23' Wellcraft CC....I like to party and listen to loud music and think there's nothing wrong with hanging out with woman in bikinis (though to be honest, most of them on my boat nowadays would be my daughters). Having all that in common with the stated generalizations I don't think makes me the boater typified by some of the comments on THT. Did my boating skills and practices evolve with the type of Sea Ray I've owned? No, but they have evolved over the time I've captained those boats and I'd like to think I'm a better boater today than I was 12 years ago when I bought my first Sundancer. I'm also pretty sure I behave the same way whether I'm at the helm of my CC or my 58DB. So I guess those that bad mouth Sundancer or Sea Ray or CC or any other boat owner purely based on the make or model of their boat only proves the point that their opinions are like assholes....everyone's got one....and that's mine.
 
I made a couple jokes in this thread that were meant to poke fun at the stereotypes and generalizations but here is the crux of the matter....

In almost all cases stereotypes are based on the obnoxious minority and do not represent the whole.

On our lake we have a ton of obnoxious "bros" driving big boats with babes in bikini's abound. These guys stick out like a sore thumb and they're the ones that the fisherman and regular families on the lake associate with big-boat owners...these rich boys driving daddy's Formula or Sea Ray are the ones that ruin it for everyone. On the same note, we have our share of weekend warriors at the boat ramp who don't have a clue how to put the plug in. If you were to ask someone to describe the typical Lake Minnetonka boater they would describe one or the other but I have been on this lake for many, many years and neither group defines the true demographic of the lake. We have a lot of big Sea Rays on our lake and the vast majority of the owners are normal people in their 40's and older who are not compensating for anything. I know many of them personally and they are like us... they are successful in business and life and they have a passion for boating and getting out on the water. Boating is their escape from the things that stress them and it's also a way to connect with friends and family on a closer level. Their big boats are their personal rewards for the hard work they've invested in life in the pursuit of their dreams. These guys are passionate boaters with great boating skills. Keep in mind, when I say "big boat" I really mean anyone with a pleasure boat -- whether bow rider or cruiser -- because even the lowest price Sea Rays are out of the budget for most Americans. Even a boat for $20k-$30k is out of reach for most people because that's more expensive than most cars for the average American.

On the flip side, there are a ton of fisherman on our lake and handful are like the d-bags on THT. These guys give all fisherman on the lake a bad name but when you talk to the guys in their bass boats and CC's at the boat ramp you find that they are great guys and they enjoy the water for many of the same reasons that the big boat guys do.

It's the jerks that create and perpetuate the stereotypes...not the type or brand of boat.
 
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trit21 said:
Name calling….pretty typical I guess. Not sure why you thought you had to attack but some people just can't get along with others. I will assume you didn't read my first post. Shoe looking boats? Might want to take a look at the 390 and 480MY, if you want to talk about shoes.
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Ummm...Irony...You aren't a 49ers fan by chance??? (Sorry Humph)
 
Geesh. This thread started out to point out how that thread on THT was making generalizations and stereotypes about SR owners and now, we've become just like the THT posters.

We boat with friends who own several different brands of boats. Some I like the designs of, some I don't care about so much. The nice thing about that is whether or not doesn't matter because I like the owners. We don't tease each other about what brand boat we own and that makes it a great group to hang out with.
 
trit21 said:
Ahhh no. Ever priced out a 34 Yellowfin or Contender? Especially one that has all the electronics on it, expensive and they hold their value much better than a SeaRay. Problem with SeaRay is exactly what has been said here, so many of them drives the price way down. Neighbor is trying to sell his 34 Sundancer and the prices his broker keeps telling him it is not worth taking the huge hit. Just to many for sale. Some of these CC start at over $500,000.
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Your suppose to be on our side! Lol
 
The Emeryville Yacht Club has a nice mix of sail and power. We are not the only Sea Ray, and there are two others that participate in most of the Club cruise-outs. Myself, I love to be on boats. I am not picky on size or brand. My wife and I owned two sailboats (Catalina-36, and Slocum-43) before switching to the 'dark side' two years ago. I even had a commercial fishing license for two years so I could fish a 32 foot Monterey (Mari Therese) out of San Francisco with my friend Jeremiah Francis Brady. You want to talk "fishing"? How about 80 hooks with two guys?. That old wooden Monterey was as stable as you please with the 'birds' in the water, and I have seen it take green water over the house with no damage. I currently have an OUPV 6-Pack Captains license, and have had an opportunity to actually be on many different boats, in many different conditions. As far as brands go, I am much more concerned with maintenance, and condition. As far as jerks go, every boat brand, boating group, and Marina has its share of Yahoo's. Same thing goes for whiners. I do not mind loud music every now and then, but I do not want it blaring every day, or past midnight. You can have as many bikini clad young ladies flitting about as you like, no restrictions. I do not mind leashed dogs on the dock, or a few barks, now and then, But I do not want to be stepping on dog crap, or tripping over critters while carrying my beer to the boat. If you are tied to a dock, or mooring, please be friendly, considerate, and polite. Follow the local rules. If you are underway, be sure whoever is at the helm is friendly, and polite, and follows the Gosh Dang Colreg Navigation Rules. Tiara, Hatteras, Sea Ray, Protector, etc. pick your poison. The type of craft I personally think has the highest jerk wads per capita are Kayaks, and windsurfers. But that is just me, and my personal stereotypical character flaw.
 
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2000SR380 said:
The Emeryville Yacht Club has a nice mix of sail and power. We are not the only Sea Ray, and there are two others that participate in most of the Club cruise-outs. Myself, I love to be on boats. I am not picky on size or brand. My wife and I owned two sailboats (Catalina-36, and Slocum-43) before switching to the 'dark side' two years ago. I even had a commercial fishing license for two years so I could fish a 32 foot Monterey (Mari Therese) out of San Francisco with my friend Jeremiah Francis Brady. You want to talk "fishing"? How about 80 hooks with two guys?. That old wooden Monterey was as stable as you please with the 'birds' in the water, and I have seen it take green water over the house with no damage. I currently have an OUPV 6-Pack Captains license, and have had an opportunity to actually be on many different boats, in many different conditions. As far as brands go, I am much more concerned with maintenance, and condition. As far as jerks go, every boat brand, boating group, and Marina has its share of Yahoo's. Same thing goes for whiners. I do not mind loud music every now and then, but I do not want it blaring every day, or past midnight. You can have as many bikini clad young ladies flitting about as you like, no restrictions. I do not mind leashed dogs on the dock, or a few barks, now and then, But I do not want to be stepping on dog crap, or tripping over critters while carrying my beer to the boat. If you are tied to a dock, or mooring, please be friendly, considerate, and polite. Follow the local rules. If you are underway, be sure whoever is at the helm is friendly, and polite, and follows the Gosh Dang Colreg Navigation Rules. Tiara, Hatteras, Sea Ray, Protector, etc. pick your poison. The type of craft I personally think has the highest jerk wads per capita are Kayaks, and windsurfers. But that is just me, and my personal stereotypical character flaw.
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may I add jetskis and wake boats ??
 
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Xplicitlnck said:
I am curiouse on the title tho. Drunk yea I get that part but high? We're did that come from?
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I so badly want to say "some of us are in California ". You know, where we have Cannabis stores, and any neighborhood kid with his hat on backward can score you a dime bag. But, there still is that nasty 'Zero Tolerance' thing to fret about, and I worked very hard to get my Captains license. Must be those other 'Sea Ray Owners'. Seriously, the title came from THT so we would have to ask them.
 
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northshore said:
I really think all you need to know about the intelligence level of some on THT can be surmised in the post of the bright boy who decided to post a picture of the Mensa's that crashed their boat into a restaurant in St. Pete.

"Stupid sea ray drivers"

Well sorry but....

A) It was a center console fishboat
B) It was a 'SeaVee'

Remember some people are put on this earth to be used a a reference point as to where you sit on the Darwin evolutionary scale.
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You should try re reading what that "bright boy"posted a little slooooowwwweeeerrrr:grin:
 
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a few months ago i couldn't tell you the difference between a sea ray, bayliner, or carver. i was looking at whatever looked good. i would still operate my boat the same as i do now no matter what brand i bought. it isn't about the boat, just the maturity of the captain. BTW-i'm 46 now. 20 years ago may have been a different story
 
We have lived on a busy inland lake that empties into Lake Michigan for 38 years and see lots of boats go by our home on a busy weekend. And, they come from all over the mid west including some that are doing the Great Loop. It is very seldom that we see large boats in a range of 40 to 80 feet or more that are piloted by jerks. Regardless of brand, boats that are in a size range of 13 to 35 feet are piloted by skippers who routinely violate the wake law which is "slow no wake within 100 feet of a dock". I'll bet we see 500 or more boaters on a busy weekend day who are clueless when it comes to common sense, courtesy and the law. Our boat takes water over the transom every week end. The Sheriff sometimes parks in our guest slip and writes tickets but this has little or no effect on the way people boat. It is kind of fun to watch though.
 
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