Docking edicate?

Great link! I have seen this done just didn't know how to do it.
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I’m embarrassed to say that at one time I would Flemish coil my dock lines. Now I know better.

The “Flemish coil” is for sailors, Bayliner owners and people who don’t know any better.

If someone puts my dock lines in a Flemish coil it’s gone in seconds by me.

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Braiding is faster. Braiding allows you to fling the line over the edge of the dock if you choose to. Braiding does not get messed up if someone bumps the line with their foot. Braiding does not cause the line to take on a ‘set’ or memory. Braiding can be doubled over if you have a long line. Braiding prevents the line from getting tangled. Braiding is cool.

How to…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXJpZUQc0jU
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Just a "Professional Perspective" Flemish Coils look good on the dock... Braiding does not and should be used when Stowing the Line to Prevent "Bird nests"!

My2Ct's! :grin:
 
Bugsy24 said:
Just a "Professional Perspective" Flemish Coils look good on the dock... Braiding does not and should be used when Stowing the Line to Prevent "Bird nests"!

My2Ct's! :grin:
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Hey Marshall,

No offence, to each their own. Some people love the look of some things, others like something else. I guess that’s a good thing or else we would all live in identical houses, drive the same car, and so on.

If you feel that way simply fling the braid over the edge. If your line gets to the water, double braid to make it shorter.

Professionals built the titanic, armatures the ark.
 
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The dock edicate is no different in St. Petersburg, Fl. The week end boaters blast their music, play different music from boat to boat, never return the dock carts, don't move when you walk to your boat, they leave their discarded stuff all over the dock, let their trash blow into the water not pick it up, dock-master has attitude, doesn't care about complainants well could go on and on. So two choices either go with the flow talk under your breath or move.
 
Flemish coil is for sailors? Never heard that one. I'm still gonna use it.

Here's another myth that I have never confirmed or denied...
The FARMER coils a line around his elbow, the BOATER coils it in one hand and feeds the coil with the other.

There is NOTHING worse than having an a-hole dock neighbor. I feel for you. The last thing you want to do is dread heading down to the boat.
 
rondds said:
Flemish coil is for sailors? Never heard that one. I'm still gonna use it.

Here's another myth that I have never confirmed or denied...
The FARMER coils a line around his elbow, the BOATER coils it in one hand and feeds the coil with the other.

There is NOTHING worse than having an a-hole dock neighbor. I feel for you. The last thing you want to do is dread heading down to the boat.
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A power boater tosses a used hose clamp in the dumpster. A sailor dumpster dives to get the hose clamp back out.
 
A power boater tosses a used hose clamp in the dumpster. A sailor dumpster dives to get the hose clamp back out.
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There's one I believe!
 
RE: the flemish coil vs braiding, the whole idea behind the flemish coil is to create a safe manner to store line on deck (probably more suited to sailing with the long sheets and halyards) The idea is that stepping on a flemish coil is like stepping on a mat rug vs stepping on a pile of line or a single strand of line that can roll under your foot.

I will be trying out the braiding method for storing lines in the line locker, but for the docks I still like the coils for the purpose of stepping on them and the general appearance...

 
The reason to coil is to prevent tripping and passer-bys, dogs and wind from kicking your lines in the water. A flat coil stays put on the dock, What a skiper does on their decks is cool, but on the docks think safety and preservation of your gear.

Braiding a overly long tail on a dock line that is left to hang over board is a skippers choice kind of thing, but on common docks, try to coil where possible, no matter how uninitiated some skippers might feel you are. :)
 
Sailors, yes as a class of boater that tend to be more Clean Wake types. Sailors will repair before replacing, recycle before trashing. I find it somewhat humorous the comment about a clamp and dumpster diving.

Constant Pressure #32 316 clamp is about $16.00 a pop and my engines use about 26 of them at PM time. When I take off a below the water line clamp due to tell tale rust in the threads of a clamp, it goes to the back up spares box and are cleaned and reused above the waterline on smaller hoses that will not use the outer rusted threads. I get an extra few years for my money. When I P.M. replace my hoses and belts, I retain the old and serviceable parts and these go to the spares box. I blow a hose or a belt, I have a spare to two to get me home, a dock mate has a problem on Saturday and the parts houses are closed, I have his solution at hand. Some guys have a $6K towing bill, I have spares, tools and know how. I'm not stuipd, I'm green, thrifty and yup an ex. sailor. heck I can even tie my own bowline!
 
ippa2 said:
RE: the flemish coil vs braiding, the whole idea behind the flemish coil is to create a safe manner to store line on deck (probably more suited to sailing with the long sheets and halyards) The idea is that stepping on a flemish coil is like stepping on a mat rug vs stepping on a pile of line or a single strand of line that can roll under your foot.

I will be trying out the braiding method for storing lines in the line locker, but for the docks I still like the coils for the purpose of stepping on them and the general appearance...

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I do the braiding most times and sometimes flemish the lines when i store the lines or at the slip..i actually like both methods
 
Having a simultaneous similar thread with a bit of a different perspective- I don't think a party on the dock or loud music is a crime. However I believe that one should be respectful of others also. Take for example the chairs on the dock, we have many neighbors on the dock that have smaller boats and do not have a lot of room. I don't care how big your boat is if you get enough people sooner or later they will spill on to the dock. We actually have a couple on a Grady that usually ends up hosting/providing most of the dock parties- ever seen a fridge or the galley in a 30 Grady?! These dock parties are common at our dock. The loud music not as much but when the majority are into getting their groove on the music gets loud. Usually more at the start and end of the season. We have never had issue for 4 years, it took us 15 years to find a dock around here that wasn't the walk of the living dead, we love the culture. Our issue now is that we have a new guy that does not mind the party so much but cannot tolerate the music. We have mutually agreed to drop any volume after midnight. We will see how that goes on both sides, it is a difficult situation at best. We have a very open culture, sharing and providing booze, food, tools, a hand or whatever is needed and the first to do so. We are not bad people we just like to party and we work and play hard.
Regarding the line posts, not sure how they got started but thank you very much- I have been trying to figure out how that braid was done!
 
The OP's marina sounds a lot like a marina that I love to visit on the weekends. They have a few places for guests at the far ends of all of their docks. I use them regularly. Every time I go there, I think to myself that there is no way in hell that I would ever keep my boat there. There is fairly loud music coming from the bar/restaurant until 2AM, and tons of drunk, non boating people walking the docks until the wee hours. They also have a lot of marina customers that do the chairs on the docks thing. Nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there...

Our marina has a nice mix. There is a small, fairly quiet bar, and most of us keep the dock party noise to a minimum. We also keep the chairs out on the far end of the dock so as not to impede the flow of traffic. There have only been a handful of ocassions where it got anywhere near being too boisterous.

I'd spend some of your away from the marina time visiting some other marinas at other locations.
 
As long as the chronic dock drunks stay on shore and away from their helms, fine with me. Years back I was hit by a drunk boater while at anchor, wish he'd kept it at the dock.
 
myersb said:
Well finally got to see my boat at its slip today. What an experience!

While my wife and I were parking the car to go to our boat. We noticed people on chairs all over the dock. Mind you this is 8:30am. We gathered our things and started heading to our boat. Seems like everbody just sets up lawn chairs on the main entrance behind there boat. As we worked our way through the crowd of people. Several were already drinking and trying to make lite humor, asking if we would "like a beer", "cocktail hour" and "hair of the dog" whatever that means. :huh:

Once we arrived at our boat we uncovered it to do some general maintenance. Thats when two boats down from us had to turn on there radio and play it like we were at a concert. This went on all day. At one point the boat that was playing there music left to go and get something to eat. They didn't even have the courtesy to shut off there radio.:smt021

Well I could go on and on with more examples.The only reason I am writing this is because of my disgust with the whole ordeal. Is this common dock edicate? Should my wife and I just relax and go with the flow? By the way we wanted to take the boat out, but the water is too high several boats had reported hitting under water logs. I do not need that this season.
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If you are at Raystown Lake, waiting a few weeks is unlikely to be a workable plan for you. I was up there about 8 years ago and saw the idiots blaring loud awful music, shouting, drinking and swearing at all hours of the day. Not at all unlike an Animal House for middle aged country folk. As I recall there is another marina on this lake that maybe you could check out.
 
Jim you are correct with the other marina. The only problem is a waiting list.
jrirvine1 said:
If you are at Raystown Lake, waiting a few weeks is unlikely to be a workable plan for you. I was up there about 8 years ago and saw the idiots blaring loud awful music, shouting, drinking and swearing at all hours of the day. Not at all unlike an Animal House for middle aged country folk. As I recall there is another marina on this lake that maybe you could check out.
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