Dock Neighbor - Doesn't like to Follow the Rules

Open flame is what you get when you use wood/charcoal to grill.

Gas grills are not considered open flame, at least at our marina they aren't. We are allowed to use gas grills but not allowed to have an open flame, something that can't be shut off with a valve.
 
I'm surprised that Rich Luttrell let's that go. He know's what it's like to go through a fire since they were at Woodland for all those years. Sounds like they need to relocate to the lower end of Eagles Landing.

We won't even get started on Mickey! He has forced me to drink a few beers with him but he did redeem himself with some helpful advice trying to remove some plastic fittings on my VacuFlush rebuilding project. In fact I think we are due to check the level in his beer cooler.
 
trit21 said:
Open flame is what you get when you use wood/charcoal to grill.

Gas grills are not considered open flame, at least at our marina they aren't. We are allowed to use gas grills but not allowed to have an open flame, something that can't be shut off with a valve.
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Our rules state all Gas/Charcoal must be on land.
 
Some marinas allow the small propane grills... some don't....

Does anyone have any data where one of those small propane canisters and a grill caused a fire? Ever? Even off the dock?

I'm pretty safety conscious but the gas grill thing has never really bothered me... Then again, I leave my generator running when I fill the boat up with fuel.
 
Just dial 911. Let the fire marshall tell them that they can not do that.....Last summer we had a guy almost torch his cuddy with a charcoal grill on his swim platform with all his canvas up....The black scorch mark up the white canvas and the melted eisenglass where a "sure fire" conversation starter. Just glad this guy was on the hook and not in some marina when he did it.
 
I grill on my boat every weekend, in the slip or out at anchor. I also use an alcohol stove in the cabin and smoke a cigar at the same time.
 
TurtleTone said:
I grill on my boat every weekend, in the slip or out at anchor. I also use an alcohol stove in the cabin and smoke a cigar at the same time.
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That is so living on the edge...

I was at a marina many years ago in our 380 and cooked dinner in the cabin (hot dogs and mac & cheese) and we were eating it out on the back area and this sailboat-bitch-lady storms up and starts yelling at us that we are not allowed to cook on the boat. I think she though we had an alcohol stove or something... I didn't really get it... She said by using the galley at the dock, we could burn the whole marina down.
 
Maybe she was with green peace or something. Hot dogs, dairy products, and FIRE! You are using up all of your carbon credits in one afternoon.
 
What's really a hoot is many of the heaters on the sailboats are diesel fuel powered... And a lot of boats have propane systems in them for the stove... Especially the nicer sailboats and motoryachts... Are they allowed to use their stoves at the marina?
 
Hampton said:
Maybe she was with green peace or something. Hot dogs, dairy products, and FIRE! You are using up all of your carbon credits in one afternoon.
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:smt043:lol::smt043:lol::smt043

We call them Tree Huggers!! I think I like the "oops, it must have fallen off in the water" resolution when the asking to move his stuff nicely does not work......(GRIN)
 
You have to pick your battles with neighbors in a marina. If you can't look the guy in the eye and make sense with him. Going to the manager and forcing him to confront the neighbor has the potential to turn this into a huge pissing contest that may have consequenses you find less acceptible than the grill and blocked pier access.

Try to have a discussion with the neighbor first and if that doesn't work, ask the marina management to relocate you to a slip where the neighbors follow the rules and do not obscure your access.
 
Four Suns said:
That is so living on the edge...

I was at a marina many years ago in our 380 and cooked dinner in the cabin (hot dogs and mac & cheese) and we were eating it out on the back area and this sailboat-bitch-lady storms up and starts yelling at us that we are not allowed to cook on the boat. I think she though we had an alcohol stove or something... I didn't really get it... She said by using the galley at the dock, we could burn the whole marina down.
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Now there is a good one for the book... "sailboat-bitch-lady". I like that one!
 
Actually, I don't like grills on the boat because they are just messy... I prefer to fire up a grill on shore so I can get some serious flames on it.

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Four Suns said:
Does anyone have any data where one of those small propane canisters and a grill caused a fire? Ever? Even off the dock?

I'm pretty safety conscious but the gas grill thing has never really bothered me... Then again, I leave my generator running when I fill the boat up with fuel.
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One time, I was grilling on my boat and my little magma propane kettle got hot and I burned my finger. I almost got a blister. Does that count?
 
Gary - What are you burning plywood from the boat stands? Burning remnants of bottom paint - make a burger taste oh so good.
 
That's not me... that's a CSR member who shall go unnamed...

You should note, however, the "backup" bag of charcoal next to the grill...
 
Four Suns said:
That is so living on the edge...

I was at a marina many years ago in our 380 and cooked dinner in the cabin (hot dogs and mac & cheese) and we were eating it out on the back area and this sailboat-bitch-lady storms up and starts yelling at us that we are not allowed to cook on the boat. I think she though we had an alcohol stove or something... I didn't really get it... She said by using the galley at the dock, we could burn the whole marina down.
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I had a sail boater raise hell with me for running my radar while coming into a slip. She said I was giving everyone cancer. Must be powerboat envy.
 
You guys are far too reasonable. Work up a good strong panicked look. Get all bug-eyed and yell something like, "Oh my God! That boat's on fire! The whole marina is going to burn!" Then grab a fire extinguisher and hose everything down with dry chemical while yelling "Fire! Fire!" Take 15 minutes to calm down after the fire is out. The crazier you look and act, the better. No one is going to argue with the certifiable nut case on the dock.

just a suggestion...

Best regards,
Frank
 
sbw1 said:
I had a sail boater raise hell with me for running my radar while coming into a slip. She said I was giving everyone cancer. Must be powerboat envy.
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:smt043:lol::smt043I would have started laughing and fell on the deck!!
 
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