Dock drama/dilemma

Big Island Lifer said:
This guy sounds like an a-hole on a power trip. I am a little shocked that your marina doesn't have mandatory quiet hours, but if that is the rule who is this guy to tell you to do something different? You have done right to try to make peace with him. Have you spoken with him while all parties were of clear heads? Was he able to see your side of the story?
Hopefully you can find a peaceful solution to this.

Good Luck!
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I hope so thanks!
 
Gofirstclass said:
I'd suggest you contact Gideons and get a supply of bibles, then at 6:00 or so turn off the music and start your bible study.

Oh wait, did I just say that? Sorry, kinda lost my head for a moment. This guy sounds like the kind who would move near an airport then beitch about the noise. If the noise hasn't been a problem with the marina management in the past the precedent is already well established. I'd politely tell the guy that he might find more quiet on a distant dock.

GFC
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Dbl Ditto :thumbsup:
 
I have only been on two docks in 11 years. Both were reasonable quiet docks including my current location. I enjoy a great HiFi and music . . . no party required. I will always try to play music my dock neighbors like. I simply ask what they like. If your new neighbor hears their music it is always better. Break them in with their music choice and add a little as you go. Soon they may be asking for more. It also helps if you are not cranking your system while your speakers cry. I find it easy to lure them in with a great HiFi and some great music tracks. I am always considerate of the quiet hours . . . that is just a matter of respect. Even if you don’t have published hours you should still be respectful. Russ, you will appreciate this . . . I have all home audio equipment on the dock including multiple amps, monitor speakers, DBX 3BX dynamic range expander, Two powered subs. I am getting close to live concert sound. We are loud and clear.
 
HIFI said:
I have only been on two docks in 11 years. Both were reasonable quiet docks including my current location. I enjoy a great HiFi and music . . . no party required. I will always try to play music my dock neighbors like. I simply ask what they like. If your new neighbor hears their music it is always better. Break them in with their music choice and add a little as you go. Soon they may be asking for more. It also helps if you are not cranking your system while your speakers cry. I find it easy to lure them in with a great HiFi and some great music tracks. I am always considerate of the quiet hours . . . that is just a matter of respect. Even if you don’t have published hours you should still be respectful. Russ, you will appreciate this . . . I have all home audio equipment on the dock including multiple amps, monitor speakers, DBX 3BX dynamic range expander, Two powered subs. I am getting close to live concert sound. We are loud and clear.
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Loudandclear is my middle name, I like the way you think. I was wondering if I was going to hear from you. As a fellow audio enthusiast I thought you may have some experience in this arena.
 
Bucit said:
Be proactive and speak with management yourself. Tell him of the situation and mybe they will talk to him about moving. This way it looks like management cares and everybody is happy.
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Yep. You have a 4 year relationship with the marina. Use it to your advantage. I'd go talk to them, and give them the heads up that the "new guy" isn't that fond of the established crowd's behavior. Offer a compromise to them, something like "Hey... We uderstand that some people might like a quieter weekend than we do, so we're willing to tone it down a good bit after midnight, but I think he might be happier on another dock. We've really come to enjoy the atmosphere that has developed over the years, and we would like to preserve that if possible.".

My guess is that they will contact him, and ask if he might be happier in another slip.
 
Russ,
I agree with others that the guy has no body to blame but himself for picking the loud party dock and is unreasonable for complaining. The lack of specific marina quiet hours is surprising but here is where self imposed quiet hours might be a potential option. Another suggestion that might provide some insight is stay stone sober during just one of those drunken nights of loud music and debauchery. If it is not nearly as much fun as when you're well lit perhaps some moderation for the group might be the path to global peace. If you still have the same good time sober then give the killjoy some Gatorade mixed with Everclear and get some compromising pictures The glucose in Gatorade speeds the absorption of alcohol through the small intestine so he will be quite playable after just one or two of these.
 
Russ Calasant said:
Loudandclear is my middle name, I like the way you think. I was wondering if I was going to hear from you. As a fellow audio enthusiast I thought you may have some experience in this arena.
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Lure them in Russ . . .Lure them in.
 
I want the new guy's slip. Where are you all located?
 
So what if I rent a slip in the sleepy section of the dock and light up the night with girls, booze and music? You were there before me but I want to party. Now what?
Personally I'd call me out faster than a gunslinger in Tombstone. The door swings both ways so find the spot that fits and be happy.
 
Rick K said:
Wow. Sounds like my club! Seriously though, this is a tough one. A thousand years ago, when I was in my 20's, I was one of the "offenders" as well. While we partied, had loud music, the occasional bikini-clad (or not) debauchery and the like, we were cognizant of the fact that not everybody partied, and that some folks wanted a quiet place to dock, etc. So, we kept it down after midnight. In fact, quiet time was really 11pm. Management didn't really say too much, unless it REALLY got out of hand.

Also, our marina management actually had one area set aside for quiet boaters only, and no partying was aloud. That seemed to work well.

Fast forward almost 30 years, and I'm now the new guy at the yacht club. I'm dead-center between my friends, and they are partiers, and I really don't any more. But, I couldn't care less. (But I will still participate in drunkin bikini-clad debauchery!) We're lucky, because everybody will get smashed up at the club, then just mosey down to the dock and it stays pretty quiet.

Now, your non-partying friend decided to dock by you folks, and knew what he was getting into. It's tough to just tell someone "hey, we were here first", because boating is supposed to be about commraderie (sp), friendship and all that. IMHO, if you have a bunch of people (no matter what the circumstances) that are partiers, everybody's gonna think that the quiet guy is trying to throw a wrench into your fun, and a few might even get pissed off and tell the guy to take a long walk off his short dock. That'll just cause more issues.

I think it's fair to say that if he speaks with management, he'll most likely be moved to a more quiet area of the marina, after giving you guys the speech about being friendly boaters.

As far as getting law enforcement involved, I doubt if the cops will come onto a private marina. But, they could give management a hard time.

Good luck on this one...[/

Just so you know even though it's a private marina your local noise ordinance still applies and the Law can still interveen and write a summons if called they must respond .
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We typically have many bikini clad women at our parties and they like to dance.
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Russ, When I get my car back from the shop I'm coming to party at your marina. :thumbsup:. :thumbsup:
 
I think a reasonable accommodation would be to start buying this guy rounds of shooters bout 11AM, keep getting him to slam down Tequila until he begins to knee walk, so that around sundown he doesn't care about your party unless he';s in the middle of it. A set of really good photos will then prove cover for some time.
 
Russ,
I can't really help you on this. Over the years I've had to deal with similar situations on both sides of the coin. Fortunately it was only on the weekends at the beach. I got to know the desirable people as well as the ones with the floating trailers. I gravitated to where I was comfortable. This is obviously not the case here.

That being said.............I want to party on your dock!!!!!
 
Russ Calasant said:
.......A little more info, this guy approached the situation like a bull in a china shop- just about the same subtlety. He is a retired out of town policeman and has an aggressive edge, not to mention the bravado. .....
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Russ,

In my original reply I was trying to be fair and gave more slack to the guy. Having seeing this critical part of info, it's no brainer he doesn't fit there. Period. Having said that, IMO the only and best resolution is to nicely make him move someplace else. Playing his music and feeding him with nice drinks sounds good, but it very well be a waste effort and time. I'm sure you've done some of it, but this just might be the type of person where you're just putting a temp patch and really not fixing a bigger issue. It's kind of a tough spot to be in, but the main thing is that you have a cool group that's on the same page. In order to win you have to stick together and "play your game" in reasonable terms. This is when marina management might just help in your favor and hopefully this guy will move out.

BTW, if you have another friend in the marina on the different dock, maybe he can swap the slips with this guy?
 
Moving onto a dock is akin to moving into a neighborhood. You would check out the neighborhood BEFORE you bought the house (rented the slip). That said, each dock usually has its own identity - some wild, some mild and proper due dilligence (unless its the last slip left) would prevent some of these issues I would think. I live on a dock that a number of us daily go to work from - weekends always have the potential for a long night - and at times it happens mid-week - but I can always retire to my cabin if I need to be up early.
 
I was thinking like ASUREYEZ,You have all the necessary personel with contacts i am sure you can get the retired state cop and a lawyer to find a "girl in trouble " to show up at the dock when his wife isnt around ,have a marketer spin some magic talk,get him drunk enough to get some photos and walla, he'll be quiet as a mouse or move his house.
 
1956olds said:
I was thinking like ASUREYEZ,You have all the necessary personel with contacts i am sure you can get the retired state cop and a lawyer to find a "girl in trouble " to show up at the dock when his wife isnt around ,have a marketer spin some magic talk,get him drunk enough to get some photos and walla, he'll be quiet as a mouse or move his house.
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I like how you Think... "Ol' Evil One"
 
I'm thinkin I have found some new dock candidates- I gotta party with some of you guys, there is pure evil in this group!
Seriously maybe it's me but everywhere we go all season, year for that matter, we run into and gravitate towards like minded folk. I wouldn't think of pulling into a sailing club for a weekend and then complain about the halyards clanging and the pissy attitudes let alone make it my permanent spot. This guy did his homework and he only came from the marina next door- we are pretty well known by them too. I will stick to the 12am quite time and also suggest he might want to consider moving to one of the other open slips, even further down the dock.
 
Youre gonna show this to your party mates arent you
 
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