CSR has become almost unusable for me

KevinC said:
I have lost faith in the fact the programmers know what they are doing anymore (but that is another rant).

Hey now, that hits home ;-)
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With 99.999998% confidence I can state this is not a user/client issue, so nobody needs to keep checking their browsers and such.

Usually when you see this type of performance issue after an update something was missed, forgotten, etc. Or as @KevinC suggests, maybe some things were added that are adding additional server trips, or trips to other services (Google Analytics for example). The interesting thing with this one though is it eventually self heals during the day. Which suggest someone is doing a server reboot ;-)
 
To see what's happening when you load the home page from Chrome, Ctrl - Shift - I then load the page. It's flying for me right now so nothing jumps out as too long.
 
KevinC said:
This problem only seemed to arise after the upgrade. So if this was done on the same server and in the same facility then I would think it was more software related unless we can determine the issues are related to packet loss to and from the server that could indicate a network issue or something like a DDOS attack. Timeouts and slow responses can be caused by many things. Also based on my personal experience I have lost faith in the fact the programmers know what they are doing anymore (but that is another rant).

My thoughts would be a database indexing issue, local background house keeping processes, site library dependencies or even a remote site dependencies from a CDN that is responding slowly are variable times.

There is a bunch of things that are being handled off server:
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and don't forget those annoying ads everyone was complaining about - they get loaded from remote servers too.

-Kevin
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To your point lot's of off server activity. All of the red are ad links.

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mrsrobinson said:
Right, that is what I see, but why does it self heal itself? Rhetorical question.
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So for Chrome, if you press F12 you get the debug screen.

I know you said "Rhetorical question" but it doesn't self heal. It just doesn't care about inaccessible links. In this case Ad links that Ad Blocker handles and suppresses the error. And unless in debug mode, you're not going to see the errors, unless they are critical and crash the current session.
 
SKybolt said:
So for Chrome, if you press F12 you get the debug screen.

I know you said "Rhetorical question" but it doesn't self heal. It just doesn't care about inaccessible links. In this case Ad links that Ad Blocker handles and suppresses the error. And unless in debug mode, you're not going to see the errors, unless they are critical and crash the current session.
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Right, that's what I said: http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php...me-almost-unusable-for-me.114481/post-1430614

Self heal, meaning it's loading fast now (and eventually improves during the day), presumably with no intervention by someone (rebooting a server for example).
 
@mrsrobinson Greg actually you said Ctl-Shift, but that isn't my point. I only corrected so others can see what I posted on their machines.

The errors this morning and other timeouts are not the same issues. I just saw the server stop responding to the "POST" requests and timing out. Different from the ad errors I posted above, which was just being blocked.
 
I said "Ctrl - Shift - I" which does open the debugger. You say tomatoes', I say tomatoes' :)

Pressing F12 on my Windows Laptop using Chrome doesn't open the debugger on my machine. The long way to do it from Chrome is click the 3 dots in the upper right, click More tools, click Developer tools.

I shared this so others can check, when they see performance (ads loading, maybe the server, maybe the pipe, etc.) related issues, then maybe post them here for the Admin(s) to research.
 
mrsrobinson said:
I said "Ctrl - Shift - I" which does open the debugger. You say tomatoes', I say tomatoes' :)

Pressing F12 on my Windows Laptop using Chrome doesn't open the debugger. The long way to do it from Chrome is click the 3 dots in the upper right, click More tools, click Developer tools.

I shared this so others can check, when they see performance (ads loading, maybe the server, maybe the pipe, etc.) related issues, then maybe post them here for the Admin(s) to research.
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Didn't catch the I, my bad. But F12 on a windows laptop absolutely does open the debug session, on any PC actually. Sometimes on laptops you need to press their "special" key as well to get to the function keys.

Anyway sorry for the divergence everyone.
 
Stee6043 said:
I might be the only one but in the AM's it takes minutes upon minutes to load the site, my posts don't go through half the time, everything takes a very long time. Then, suddenly, it seems to work again. All new features since the upgrade.

It's really unfortunate. About 90% of the online content I consume comes from this site. I appreciate the free-ness (not a word) of this place but man...I only have so much patience. My morning coffee routine is being severely impacted.

Big time bummer....
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That’s a lot of whining so early in the morning. Try another browser….. I have zero issues with the site on my iPhone or iPad …… or my laptop but I rarely use that
 
Ok, my issue is that I can't stay logged in even though I have checked the box.
 
Jaybeaux said:
Ok, my issue is that I can't stay logged in even though I have checked the box.
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I cleared out all of my cookies and now only access the site via https and that seemed to fix that issue for me. I also had to edit this site (chrome) and allow cookies to be saved.
 
Just got slow again, checked debugging while loading threads, if he helps to diagnose:

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I also seeing a lot of: ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT
 
While I thought it might be an addressing problem........I will now bet money that the ad calls it is making to the different ad servers in use are timing out. It is no coincidence that the number of ads on the site have gone through the roof which means that it checks your cookies (even if you delete them) and tries to find ads that you may be interested in. Those servers are not CSR.

If they don't respond.....it shouldn't stop the site from loading.....but it does. I have seen this before when another site "upgraded" to a new Xenforo Forum version which served up ads that were not controlled by the member website. The site was overwhelmed with ads and had serious loading issues.

Xenforo knows this happens but the deal is if you want to use their software and not pay for it........they throw ads at the users.....relentlessly. If an ad server connection breaks....someone has to bounce that server.
 
@CSR_Admin Jim, while not a CSR bug, but a comment on your new BOE site. The check out procedure is not the greatest. I just ordered something and if I were not so persistent I would have gone somewhere else. Way to many screens to go through and when I tried to use pay pal the screen wouldn't launch until I logged into your site. That of course made me start over and had to re-find what I was trying to purchase. Then the multiple are you human full screen checks are ridiculous. Sorry, but your other site was leaps and bounds better from a check out stand point.
 
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