Common sense gun control laws?

Hoplite808 said:
@Jeffreyyachtman

There are those who try to argue that this is an obsolete law and doesn’t make sense with modern times because we now have standing Armies and National Guards so the Militia concept no longer serves a purpose. However, they are wrong, because the constitution is still the law of the land and valid to this day. The Heller decision by the Supreme Court in 2008 even ruled that the right to bear arms is still an individual right to keep and bear arms for self defense.
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Tell that to the Ukranians.
 
Golfman25 said:
Tell that to the Ukranians.
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So your argument is that the US constitution isn’t valid because another country on the other side of the world didn’t adopt it and is currently at war? I’m not going to debate you on your premise because like Thomas Paine is quoted with saying, “To argue with a man who has renounced reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
 
Hoplite808 said:
So your argument is that the US constitution isn’t valid because another country on the other side of the world didn’t adopt it and is currently at war? I’m not going to debate you on your premise because like Thomas Paine is quoted with saying, “To argue with a man who has renounced reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
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Pretty sure you misinterpreted that.
 
@TimW I don’t know what the point could be otherwise. But happy to be corrected if they could expound their meaning or intent of the statement.
 
Hoplite808 said:
@TimW I don’t know what the point could be otherwise. But happy to be corrected if they could expound their meaning or intent of the statement.
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Ukraine is the poster child FOR the 2nd Amd.

Two months ago who could have imagined another modern country being forced to defend itself.
 
Hoplite808 said:
@TimW I don’t know what the point could be otherwise. But happy to be corrected if they could expound their meaning or intent of the statement.
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Was unambiguous to me.

He clearly makes the point that those who say 2A is outdated are incorrect. Or more precisely states it is not outdated.
 
Ok. Definitely read into that text wrong then based on your explanation.

As Key and Peeler’s sketch shows texts can sometimes be read the wrong way.

 
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If, BIG if! guns was to be outlawed and confiscated the killings would continue on since the gun is not doing the killing its the sick individual doing the killing. Until everyone realizes this it will continue regardless in my opinion.
I will never surrender any firearm I own period, to anyone. Infact I simply think most feel that way. If not I am OK with that, but mine are staying at the house .
 
RBB said:
If, BIG if! guns was to be outlawed and confiscated the killings would continue on since the gun is not doing the killing its the sick individual doing the killing. Until everyone realizes this it will continue regardless in my opinion.
I will never surrender any firearm I own period, to anyone. Infact I simply think most feel that way. If not I am OK with that, but mine are staying at the house .
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At least you'll know where they are. A friend of mine told me he buried a bunch of guns here and there. Said he greased them up, bagged them, and put them in PVC tubes. That was in the early '80's, he figure things were going to hell soon.;)
He died unexpectedly alone at his cabin up in Canada. No one to tell his secrets with his last breaths and no one has found the treasure map.... if there is one.:rolleyes:
 
I sold all of my guns many years ago, long before WA had their mandatory registration fiasco they passed a few years ago. I have no idea, nor do I have any records of who I sold them to.

Darn, gov Inslee, I wish I could be more help to Ya'll
 
Here's a good gun training video. NSFW. To get it to play, copy/paste the info below into the Youtube search bar, click on it, then choose "Open" when the small download window opens. Caution about the language.

C:\Users\gofir\Downloads\Chicago firearms training_0.mov
 
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