Clarion CMD5 Issues

[wyrman]

I figured I would start a new thread as to not junk up the other one.
When I connect to Bluetooth the cockpit speakers don't play, just the two in the salon.
I was just messing around with the settings and in the aux settings, on the "A cancel", in the off the salon speakers play, cockpit doesn't.
Change it to on, and no speakers play.
So I put it back to off, and the salon speakers start playing again.
So I changed the input to AM/FM, and the cockpit speakers play the radio while the salon speakers play Bluetooth still.
I literally have two different sources of music playing.
If I turn off Bluetooth on my phone the radio plays on all speakers.
Here's a pic of my amp.

Any ideas?

 

[wyrman]

I have three sets or rca cables, two of them go to the amp and are connected together with a splitter. I dont know where the other one goes.
I'm thinking that maybe the splitter may have something to do with the issue, but not sure.
I'm not sure what those other cables are but they're on a splitter also.

 

[wyrman]

I realize that I'm talking to myself, but I'm digging deeper, and figured i would give as much info as I can.
Maybe it will help someone help me.
From the radio, the grey/red, grey/white rca cables go to the Bluetooth adapter.
The black/red right line level output, and the black/white left rear line level output go to the rca splitter that goes to the amp.
Theres a red/red right auxiliary imput, and red/white left auxiliary input that I don't know where it goes.

 

[DennisWittig]

I have three sets or rca cables, two of them go to the amp and are connected together with a splitter. I dont know where the other one goes.
I'm thinking that maybe the splitter may have something to do with the issue, but not sure.
I'm not sure what those other cables are but they're on a splitter also.

Pic 2 of 2 is the Y cable that splits the Clarion remote control input coming out of the clarion head unit into 2 cables of which each runs to a remote control for your clarion radio, 1 at helm, 1 on swim platform likely. Leave those alone if your remotes work ok then they are fine.

 

[DennisWittig]

Attaching a photo of the wiring info from the Clarion CMD5 manual.
The Bluetooth needs to be plugged into the auxiliary input of the CMD5 which is the ones you say you don’t know where they are going. The red/red red/white that is. See the RCA connections in photo here.
Right now I bet they are going to your CD player and if split also to a 3mm aux plug input cable maybe so someone could physically plug in an iPod or cell phone or whatever ( pre Bluetooth wired methods ). Either disco your CD player or the 3mm to make room for the Bluetooth connection now, Get that working at least and you no longer should have AM/FM and BT playing at the same time, that just sounds wrong. Check all your other wiring makes sense per the diagram. Since things sound misaligned there are other miswires with your RCA connectors there I’d think. Seems honestly like right now you have your Bluetooth feeding right into the AMP instead of into the CMD5. Just follow the wires ... the only other RCAs should be going from CMD5 to your AMP. Make sure they are. You could have 2 Amps would be why the line out would be split, maybe you removed an AMP input when you plugged in the Bluetooth... guessing that would leave wiring hanging unplugged right now you will find.

 

[Wylie_Tunes]

From the radio, the grey/red, grey/white rca cables go to the Bluetooth adapter.

Gray is FRONT pre-amp outputs.

Those Red AUX-In should be what the BT is connected to.

 

[OllieC]

They comments above

I realize that I'm talking to myself, but I'm digging deeper, and figured i would give as much info as I can.
Maybe it will help someone help me.
From the radio, the grey/red, grey/white rca cables go to the Bluetooth adapter.
The black/red right line level output, and the black/white left rear line level output go to the rca splitter that goes to the amp.
Theres a red/red right auxiliary imput, and red/white left auxiliary input that I don't know where it goes.

Theres a red/red right auxiliary imput, and red/white left auxiliary input that I don't know where it goes.

I think we're cooking with Crisco now. Your Bluetooth adapter gets plugged into the red/red and red/white aux inputs. Look at Dennis's attachment.

 

[OllieC]

From the radio, the grey/red, grey/white rca cables go to the Bluetooth adapter.
The black/red right line level output, and the black/white left rear line level output go to the rca splitter that goes to the amp.

The grey/red (Right Front) and grey/white (Left Front) are the FRONT Audio Outs which go directly to the "FRONT" (Left and Right) Audio Inputs on the AMP. This should be a direct connection. No Splitter cable.

 

[OllieC]

Maybe it will help someone help me.
From the radio, the grey/red, grey/white rca cables go to the Bluetooth adapter.
The black/red right line level output, and the black/white left rear line level output go to the rca splitter that goes to the amp.
Theres a red/red right auxiliary imput, and red/white left auxiliary input that I don't know where it goes.

The black/red (Right Rear) and black/white (Left Rear) are the rear Audio Outs that go directly to the "REAR" Audio Left and Right Inputs in the AMP. Eliminate the splitter.

 

[OllieC]

Now, the tricky part. It looks like you have a subwoofer speaker connected to your AMP, however you have no input signal to channel (5,6) which the subwoofer speakers are attached (your previous thread picture of the clear copper speaker wires) It looks like you have "Non Fader" Outputs on your Clarion (purple/red right and purple/white left) which will give a direct signal to the amp that can't be faded. You can and should run a direct RCA cable from the AMP to channel 5/6 inputs (in the picture on this thread you provided of the amp) If you haven't heard your subwoofer yet, which it looks like you haven't gauged by the setup, you will probably be amazed by the new fuller sound.

 

[wyrman]

Great info from everyone. I appreciate it tremendously. I was supposed to be finishing waxing the boat, but I'm going to get this fixed first, and it sounds like I have a big mess that needs straightened up.
I do indeed have an amp, I just never have paid attention to it too much. We're not loud radio listening people.
It almost sounds like I may have too much stuff hooked up for what I have.......no?

 

[OllieC]

As far as the in's and out's from the receiver to the amp, things were 'jacked up' . It's not that bad at all. I think all you need is one RCA cable for channel 5/6 and the purple outputs on the receiver then you're good. Everything should be a direct connection from the receiver to the amp, just eliminate the splitter and get things plugged into the correct locations as noted in the steps I provided.

Don't think of it as loud. You'll have a more 'full sound' and be able to utilize the speakers you paid for.

 

[wyrman]

Well, just like that, I have bluetooth sound on all speakers.
I have a static noise in two of the cockpit speakers, but that started yesterday when I was messing with things.
That shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
I also will get an rca cable to the subwoofer, I have one already so I can get on it today.
Thank you again for all of the help.
This is my subwoofer.

 

[wyrman]

I hooked an rca cable from the purple wires on the receiver to #5&6 on the amp.
It doesn't do anything for my subwoofer.
I can tell now that the sub isn't really putting anything out, didn't really pay attention to it before.

 

[wyrman]

Everything's working except not much from the amp.
I think I figured out how the speakers are wired.
The four cockpit speakers are fed from the external amp, the salon speakers are fed from the radio.
When I turn off the internal amp in the radio menu the salon speakers quit, or at least go very quiet.
I found the other end to the rca wire that I didn't know where it went.
It was hanging unattached behind the 3mm aux jack.
I forgot, when I bought the boat, they had something aftermarket in the upper cabinet that had been removed.
That cable was attached to whatever they had going on.
I connected it to the 3mm aux, and split it with the Bluetooth adapter.

 

[OllieC]

Sorry - been working.

Thats a really good sub and what I have as well.

When you say, not much from the sub, are you getting signal or sound? Have you increased the bass (dumb question i know)? Reading the note on your amp, is there a Bass Boost switch? Try turning that on.

 

[OllieC]

I think I may have found it. The connections I had you connect to the sub (purple and 5/6) are the NON Fade connections. There's a volume adjustment in the menu.

 

[OllieC]

FYI - If you are looking at the Subwoofer speaker wire 5/6, it is wired correctly. That is called bridging. We're just trying to get sound or signal to the 5/6 channel.

 

[wyrman]

Working? Lol, I understand. Luckily for me I'm off work, and getting full pay.
The sub isn't putting out much, I have to put my ear to it to hear anything at all.
I turned the nf up to +6, I turned the bass up on the radio also.
I'll check the bass boost.
Thank you, if nothing else I have sound on all speakers via Bluetooth.

 

[OllieC]

Not a problem. I wish I was there to help. You could just plug the channels 3/4 RCA into the 5/6 channels to troubleshoot and see if you get more signal to the sub. Then the filters in the amp should separate the high and low. If you get the same low output then something is incorrect in the AMP settings.
The subwoofer itself is still in there and wired correct? (same color wire as whats attached to the amp) It's not just an empty shell? You said the previous owner removed stuff.