Choices: 460DA vs 480DB

Roller-

I put granite floors in the galley and dinette areas and it has held up very well. It follows the same pattern as the optional wood and it was an easy mod.

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The "chrome" door you are referring to is actually stainless. That door takes a BEATING. The family, guests, and generally anybody within a mile of the boat must come and open and slam the door a few hundred times each. I must not be the only DB guy with that particular affliction since I've heard many other DB owners profess the same mania. My point is that the stainless holds up to that abuse very well. On my last DB, I had the aluminum framed door and it took quite a bit of nursing to keep it going.

Very few 480DB's had the stainless window frame option.

As far as the genny is concerned. I'm not sure if the earlier 480's had the same Onan eQD 13.5 genny, but you could stand on my back deck and ask of the genny was running. It's very quiet and very clean. No smell, smoke, and the noise is just a hair short of silent..... but, you need the AC on and the fridges running. Anyway, in the absence of AC power, my wife would get a confused look on her face and decide that 'camping' isn't fun anymore and ask to leave.
 
Wow.. I really like that granite thing.

I agree on the door. It slides so easy that I think people are going to slam it right off the boat.
 
Matt- that granite looks gorgeous. As far as the door... I am known on the dock as the "door Nazi".
 
It's like CLOCKWORK. A guest or a child ventures down from the bridge and...... wait for it..... wait for it..... SLAM!

One would normally believe they had been rammed by a tugboat considering the resulting jolt and noise. I suppose it's like everything else around my lab, Rudder, and my son, Anderson....... if they can't lose it, chew it up, or break it, they can piss on it. :thumbsup:
 
Heya John! Yup you found me, but I thought I was infamous... :wink: Were ya been guy?

I finally decided to join up here at CSR. I'd been reading for a while, but when I saw James' thread, I had to chime in/hijack. He's been a good sport.
 
roller....what the heck you doing up so late?

cliff notes. on my way to the cleveland boston game 4 and as soon as i brought up power on my way out of mentor, the port engine stalled--couldn't take the load--taxiied back and played bumper pool with the one engine coming home. Dr Webs figured it out right on the damn button. Finallly got it fixed, over to Sima and in hot storage for the winter. over there on Sat and pulled yesterday.

went to FLBS and wanna leave the dancer world for sure now and go bridge.

ramsport47 has got me looking at his stuff, loved the Lazz downstairs, but the bridge was a big shop stopper for me. Checked out your favorite 63 and if that had stairs to the bridge, wow oh wow. that boat had awesome lines, but i heard it had a real wet ride and those props are something ridiculous $k each. and gearing probs too, but still, for the GL, what the heck. looks the best no doubt.

reality says a used ramsport model as in the big M and once you take my 45 for peanuts, i'll be on my way.

cheerio to all the winter campers at macray....
 
Sorry about that Matt.....your granite work was sweet.

on the cliff notes. My 45 DA had some injector problems on the port side and finally got it fixed and into winter storage just this past weekend. Boat felt snow for the first time while not under the shrink.

Roller gave some awesome reviews on some boats over at Boater Ed forum. After a few blurbs, i told him i was looking at leaving the dancer world and going to the bridge world. His favorite was a 63 Hatteras, mine was a Lazzara, and we are going to compromise with a Marquis and he is going to be the captain and the proud owner of my 45.......got that roller>??
 
John- Those are a little different class of boats than we normally discuss in these here parts.

I have a couple of friends who have a 63 RPH and 75MY Hatts. Very nice boats. I like the 63 a lot except for the 3412 Cats. That's SO much motor and so inefficient that I can't seem to get past it. .2MPG for the kind of distances that we use our boats just doesn't sit well with me.

On the Lazzara front, I've had my eye on the 75Quad for a couple of months. I'm trying to shake the fever.... but I fear I might have 27' itis.

Good luck with your search. Sorry if I typed all the words.....
 
Good luck with that Matt! When I told John that I preferred the 6300 over the 75 Quad LSX, he questioned me. Sure enough, that must've been vodka talking. I've never been blown away by a boat like I was with that Lazzara. Sexy, fast AND economical. It's amazing. The bad news is, you'll have plenty of time to get over your fever. At MIBS last Feb, Lazzara was claiming a 3 year waiting list. (that was unverified, I'm sure that period would shorten with a large deposit)
 
their sales staff has been very attentive.... probably overly so if they have that kind of waiting list.

I have gotten much response to my inquiry about Cummins / Zeus instead of Volvo.
 
Take a look at Boatdiesel.com..... 60% of the daily threads deal with Volvo issues. I've never been happier with any diesel than I am with my QSM's. I'm very inclined to stay with Cummins.
 
Huh... The Volvo owners I know are happy. Mercruiser on the other hand...

If it were an inboard Cummins vs. an inboard Volvo, there'd be no debate. In fact, THIS thread has already hashed that out, but do you really want to mate a great engine to an unproven drive from, well, THAT manufacturer?
 
The volvo IPS demonstrator at the FLBS was a real kick to try out. The volvo guy told me the boat was easier to use than the simulator. Every article on the 75 mentioned how sweet it was to dock the boat, and it was amazing to see it on the simulator and couldn't even imagine how it would be for real.

The boat itself was way too Euro for me, but that was the more the decor, than the layout, but all the L's have these huge sunpads on the back and wassup with that?

I spent alot of time in the 68 next to it, and it was like leaving a large mansion to go to a much smaller Euro mansion, but I know that is the nature of the express vs bridge debate.

The engine room was beautiful but not as much room as you would like. I looked at the 58 Tiara Sovran with 3 IPS and that room was really crowded, plus not very easy to get to.

Hull 7 for the LSX 75 dropped its buyer and at FLBS time, it was for sale. I think i recall them telling me they are through #15 and early 2009. For a cruiser, it was #2 for me. The warren S87 was the ayatollah, but who wouldnt be the aya for 5 millionaya.

The 58 was neat, but the brokers kept saying, they are changing this and that and next one will have this and that layout and change and I got lost half way through that exchange.

I heard Volvo came out with a 9.0 liter engine--not sure what the largest is now--6.0? Anyway, I heard the fact that one needed 4 of these to run the 75 was a concern. One could argue that they'll wait for the larger IPS and when it gets to x size engine, Lazz will come out with a 75 duo LSX and you have only a 2 advil engine headache instead of the dreaded quad.

GiveThanks today.
 
John,

Back to the real world...................what did you find wrong with the engine that was giving you problems, I never heard and I like to learn?
 
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