Bow rest rubbing off bottom paint

We have launched and retrieved with the anchor up on the bow deck and the actual chute still hits.

I'm not exactly sure. I'm trusting the trailer store that set it up to the boat. The boat is on a slight incline if that means anything.

Slicks are a good thot, I never thought about that.
 
The last pic is much closer to what it should be and looks pretty typical, which would imply that something else is abnormal. It looks like if the bow roller where immediately below, rather than above the bow eye, the winch would have enough room to clear. If you dropped the winch that far though, you may need to trim the other post as it will still be the same height.

Mine looks almost exactly as we've described, although it is not as tall as yours is. I attempted to take a couple pics but is was dark by the time I got home and I'll need make another attempt in the morning.

I think we can agree that Sea Ray didn't put the bow eye in the wrong place, so what else could be different?
If the boat sitting on the trailer at rest were low at the bow end, that would hypothetically decrease the clearance between anchor the and trailer winch mount.

Does that first cross-member on the trailer have a keel roller, or no? Does it have a set of keel bunks forward, or does it just have the two main bunks that run aft - forward?
The reason I ask is because (hypothetically) if the forward end of the main bunks were low, the bow would be low in relation to the trailer, thus decreasing the space between the anchor and where it is is hitting during launch.

If you will get vertical measurements from the trailer main center frame rail 1) up to your anchor roller and 2) up to the bow eye, I will do the same and we can compare numbers. That may point to something as yet unidentified. Our boats are virtually the same size, I don't know what a ten year difference would make, but would guess it to be minimal.
 
I went and took some measurements now, as it may be raining tomorrow. Here ya go:
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2000 270 DA on a NexTrail Aluminum I-Beam trailer. (functional equivalent to yours)
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from top of center frame rail measured -->
up to bow eye - 27 inches
up to top of stand - 29 inches
up to bottom of anchor - 49 inches
up to C/L of lower anchor roller - 52 inches
from top of stand to bottom of anchor - 20 inches
note: bottom of anchor is about a foot forward of top of stand (didn't get measurement)

Hopefully there is a notable difference somewhere that will point to the cause of your frustration.
 
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Found a usable picture. Think you can see what's relevant.
 
This is the trailer (Ameritrail) used by Cobia. Notice the anchor location under the rub rail. I think this should be the set up needed. I have a couple better pics but for some reason I'm getting too big warnings that I never get. Something wonky with the csr server this morning.
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Top of center rail up...
Bow eye 31"
Anchor chute 50"
Anchor 45"
Top of winch stand 38"
Top of winch stand to bottom of anchor 7"

I didn't think about putting the roller under the bow eye. I'm sure that would definitely help a lot, I was always under the impression it went above the bow eye and rested on the bottom of the roller.

It has a keel rest but the boat sits off of it a few inches. When the trailer store adjusted the trailer, they raised the front of the bunks up and left the rear of the bunks down. So the front of the boat is higher than the back.

No it does not have keel bunks, just a V like the bow rest but it does not sit on it, it is a few inches above it.

The first thing I noticed about the Cobia picture was the bow rest, lol.
 
Totally different setup
 
MHorn0817 said:
We have launched and retrieved with the anchor up on the bow deck and the actual chute still hits.
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I was curious about that - thanks for the info.

Honestly, the boat looks fine the way it is sitting on the trailer. Bunks slicks will definitely help. The space between the anchor and winch stand is just fine. I'm pretty sure I had less space than that on my 260DA. There were some ramps (steeper ones) where the back end started floating too soon and it made it difficult to power load in one shot. In that case, I would NOT put the trailer in as far as normal and come on only so far... then back in a little more and slide the boat up more, etc. Once I went to slicks, it got much eaier/better.

Your fwd V-bunk that you have... it's setup correctly in that the boat is not sitting on it. It's not really designed to carry full weight. It's more of a "oops" protector as you're loading. HOWEVER, if you raised it up to be almost touching the boat, then it should (at least to some extent) keep the boat from pitching as far as it is now when coming on/off the trailer. Just make sure what the boat rides/rests on won't harm the keel.

Yes, you are correct in your thinking about the bow eye vs roller. The bow eye SHOULD be below the eye to "lock" the bow when trailering. It should be snugged up right underneath it so the bow doesn't bounce. Keeping it this way also helps to prevent the boat from jumping up and over the bow stand during a hard stop/accident.
 
Well, comparing the numbers do tell a bit of a story although I think the crux of your problem likely lies elsewhere.
The most glaring difference is between the top of the stand to the anchor is over a foot and a half.
Your winch stand is much taller than mine. It only needs to be tall enough to mount the winch so the roller reaches the bow eye. That excess could easily be trimmed down and afford you more clearance.

As LD pointed out, that flute anchor does not fit as tightly as would the original plow type anchor.
Still, that is just a difference, I don't believe it to be THE difference.
Another difference is your later model, by design may have the bow eye a little bit higher than mine.

Another difference (that may well be THE difference) between your trailer and mine is that yours lacks the keel bunks forward. Forward bunks keep the bow from dropping as the back of the boat starts floating. This is likely the difference between yours and all the similar boat/trailer setups that don't exhibit this issue with the anchor.

Again, I agree with and expand a little on what LD said about that forward V-bunk.
When raised up to the hull (not bearing weight, but being right there), it prevents the bow from dropping as the stern raises to float. Right now, as the stern raises the boat pivots on the front of the aft bunks, which allows the bow to drop (as it seeks a floating attitude) and decreases your anchor clearance over the winch stand. I think this is bulk of the reason you've had such results.
 
There is no reason why those forward V bunks can't touch the hull, raise them up until they're against it. When loading, your bow will make contact first, help center the boat and actually raise it up. You say they're a few inches below right now. Raise them up, if your anchor has a few more inches clearance it might be enough.
 
In post 14 the winch is 3 feet away from the boat. My bow eye is rite at my roller /winch. That set up does not look right.y keel blocks support my bow
 
Raising the V bunk is a good idea, I never paid attention that that could be done. It also makes complete sense the stern raising when backing into the water. Would raising the V rest cause the same problem as the V bow rest? Rubbing off carpet and bottom paint? I'll surely look into the bunk slicks though. I also noticed that the bow rest is not sitting flat on the hull, the top is touching more than the bottom. I'm curious if I shim the front of the bow rest up and try to make it sit flush on the hull, if that would help.

The winch stand can't really be trimmed. The bow roller is higher then the rest of the stand and the winch and roller are one assembly. We previously had a 98 270se with a new trailer with the same problem, but that time we were able to cut the stand and clear the anchor .
 
I will see if I can raise the front V bunk. I did not see an adjustment on the front side, so I'll look on the back side, under the boat.

Scotty215. Refer to post 15
 
I know what you're saying. It just seems to me the bow should come to the winch stand. I just want you to not have any issues,that's all
 
The pic in post 9 looks ok , I have 2 small bow support blocks on the last cross member at the front
 
Also I may need a trailer in a year or two so just want to see how this works out, thanks
 
Here's a pic of my 280DA trailer. The boat sits on, touches all the bunks. I guarantee you, if my bottom bunks were shorter and lower I'd never get my boat on the trailer without hitting the winch stand stuff.
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I would agree, but that's why they make and I purchased the bow rest. It technically does it's job, it's just wearing carpet and digging bottom paint.
 
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