Bailout plan voted down!

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Just watched the democatic leadership (use that term loosely). They are blaming the republicans for it failing to pass but 40% of the democrats didn't vote for it.

Where can I find out who voted yes/no?
 
Vote was as follows:

Party Ayes Noes
Democrat 140 95
Republican 65 133

Democrats are complaining about the republicans and they failed to deliver 40% of their own. Do they take us for stupid?
 
Vote was as follows:

Party Ayes Noes
Democrat 140 95
Republican 65 133

Democrats are complaining about the republicans and they failed to deliver 40% of their own. Do they take us for stupid?

So you are blaming the dems for 40% voting no, but overwhelmingly the reps voted no :huh:

You guys toe political lines regardless, eh?

Just for clarification: I am a moderate, and dont care about either side any moire than the other.
 
This is a big mess - in which - the republicans want no part in fixing - trying to distance themselves from Bush. I am an independent voter and over this last week have lost a lot of confidence in some republicans.
 
IMHO - It's mud on both parties. They needed to get together and hammer out a deal and they did not.
 
Yes, Stihlbolts has it right. They are politicians, and yes they all think we're stupid. We must be, we vote for them, and think they can solve the problems we create for ourselves. They are in business for themselves, not us.
 
Good. Let the market correct on its own.

Not to be condescending, but I certanly hope you can keep your job (or business) as the market tries to "correct itself". We are headed for a depression........that's right a depression, not a recesssion, if we don't get a bailout plan. So while Wall Street tries to "correct itself" people will start losing their jobs, seniors will loose their livelihood because of declining portfolio values, and many businesses, big and small, will go belly up. Consumer spending will slow way down and demand for consumer goods and services will head south.

We need a bailout plan to stop this from happening. Anything short of a bailout will result in a financial meltdown that none of us are prepared for.

Just my 2 cents.
 
After hearing some of pelosi's speech leading into the vote, I'm surprised anyone voted for it.... :smt021:grin::lol::smt043:wow:
 
After hearing some of pelosi's speech leading into the vote, I'm surprised anyone voted for it.... :smt021:grin::lol::smt043:wow:

She looked like a scared ghost at their press conference afterward. Surely someone took her aside and said "What the *$#% were you thinking?". Barney mouth-full-of-poop Frank would not let her answer when a reporter asked "why did you do that."
 
Not to be condescending, but I certanly hope you can keep your job (or business) as the market tries to "correct itself". We are headed for a depression........that's right a depression, not a recesssion, if we don't get a bailout plan. So while Wall Street tries to "correct itself" people will start losing their jobs, seniors will loose their livelihood because of declining portfolio values, and many businesses, big and small, will go belly up. Consumer spending will slow way down and demand for consumer goods and services will head south.

We need a bailout plan to stop this from happening. Anything short of a bailout will result in a financial meltdown that none of us are prepared for.

Just my 2 cents.

Come to me with a market-based solution and I will support it. Come to me with your hand out asking for nearly a trillion dollars of additional debt then I will not support it.

I know we are in for some very hard times but that bill was not the answer. I doubt that our congress can actually craft a solution as they are now just pointing fingers. Pelosi kills me. She is talking about bipartisanship and in the same breath she points the finger at the Republicans. She couldn't rally more than 60% of her own troops.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/b...per&adxnnlx=1222621227-udfAjKEdsPxpNxI4P9HiIQ

for a little more background info on where this came from.

For some really interesting info, check out page 2, about 3/4th of the way down the page... "compensation"... I was there... quite a while before all this hit, and these numbers don't surprise me one bit! Oh, and by the way... it's not spread evenly across the corporation. (heavily weighted at the top of course!)
 
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