450 Sundancer

What if I asked "has the hull ever been repaired?"

This post got me thinking about this as it's a question I never thought to ask.
 
"I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to remember"

- 'Clark Rockefeller' -
 
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We've been thru the Q & A thing before, Greg. You can ask anything, but nobody in his right mind would believe a seller or his agent without a survey to verify the answer.

You must do your own due diligence to determine the condition of a vessel you wish to own.

As far as a Sea Ray repair like the 450DA in question?........the boat is going to be stronger than a new one when they are done.
 
Honestly the nice thing about this is while Sea Ray is there, the owner is having his own survey done again while Sea Ray watches and there will be no hull problems. Surveyed again after it is completed to make sure.
 
fwebster said:
We've been thru the Q & A thing before, Greg. You can ask anything, but nobody in his right mind would believe a seller or his agent without a survey to verify the answer.

You must do your own due diligence to determine the condition of a vessel you wish to own.

As far as a Sea Ray repair like the 450DA in question?........the boat is going to be stronger than a new one when they are done.
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My guess is a survey would not show this type of repair? So, this could go unnoticed?

I am not doubting the repair will make the area stronger.

I bought a car a few years ago that ran like a champ and passed all inspections. History report showed it was in a minor fender bender, light damage on the front end per the police report.

I was not concerned so i bought it. I went to trade the car in to Carmax 2 years later. They told me they purchased this car right before I bought it 2 years ago, from an auction. Turns out the minor damage was frame damage and the CarMax purchase was made by a rookie buyer. They never should have purchased the car with frame damage.

Even though it was repaired to specs Carmax could not put the car on their lot then. In fact, they would not take it in on a trade from me because of this history.

So, even thoiugh the car was repaired correcty, carmax would not take it in on a trade. They also told me I had to volunteer this when I sold it privately.

Perhaps boats are different, I don't know, just asking.
 
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I know my local Marine Max - gel coat guy can spot just about any repair. No matter how good it looks. An experienced surveyor should spot some repairs. Heck, there are repairs on new boats before they leave the factory.
 
mrsrobinson said:
They also told me I had to volunteer this when I sold it privately.
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Hearsay evidence does not have to be disclosed as you have no first hand knowledge and the documentation contradicts it. He just as easily could be giving you a line of BS because he didn't want the trade.

Best regards,
Frank
 
"because he didn't want the trade"

No, I left out some details, but it was all true and in-line. I bought the car from the CarMax employee/rookie buyer. She told me she bought it for herself and decided she did not like that kind of car and wanted a Jeep. Turns out she bought the car because of her mistake, though CarMax was not allowed to tell me that.

Since I knew the car had frame damage and was made aware of it (they actually lifted and reinspected the car and saw the welds), per CarMax I had to disclose this in a sale.
 
Are you saying that instead of firing her, Carmax made her EAT the cost of a car that she purchased incorrectly?

And then she sold the car to you without disclosing this supposedly mandatory-to-disclose information? And it passed YOUR purchase inspections but not CarMax's inspections?

And CarMax KNEW all thiis this history when you traded it because. . . CarMax kept records on this car?


wow. I better not make any mistakes in my job. . or I better get a lower risk profession

I am buying my next car from CarMax. . . . as long as I don't have one to trade. . . .
 
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One of the jobs I had way back in high school was working for a car junkyard. One day they told me to go take the all of the doors off of a car. I couldn't break the bolts loose so I blow torched them off. Well I caught the car on fire and it pretty much burnt up before I could put it out. They gave me a choice, buy the car, or get fired. I bought the car.
 
comsnark said:
Are you saying that instead of firing her, Carmax made her EAT the cost of a car that she purchased incorrectly?

wow. I better not make any mistakes in my job. . or I better get a lower risk profession
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I am assuming. When I bought the car from her (private sale, newspaper ad), she presented herself as a CarMax buyer in training. She said she saw the car at an auction, liked it and bought it for herself, which I have confirmed they are allowed to do a certain # of times per year. She states she drove it for a while (4 door luxury car) and decided she wanted a Jeep, which was in her driveway.

It was a great car for me, never had one issue with it. I go through cars every 1-2 years.

I took it to CarMax to see if they would buy it. They inspected it, came back out and told me the story of how they bought the car at auction only to discover it had previous frame damage, which was repaired correctly, but their policy does not allow them to sell a car that had frame damage. They mentioned the girls name I purchased it from and said she bought it at auction to go on a Carmax lot.

So, it appears she fibbed a little to me. My guess is they offered it to her at cost, she bought it, drove it for a while and then sold it for a profit.

I ended up selling the car privately.

Back to the boat, my guess is from the replies the seller does not have to volunteer this and a good surveyor would discover it.
 
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