410 Sundancer/Express Cruiser and 400 Sundancer/Express Cruiser **Official Thread**

That's a great question. When I purchased the platform they confirmed for me it would require no struts, it would use existing mounting holes. Well, it actually shipped with 4 support struts. Initially I was bummed but I'm actually feeling much better about it now. I'm putting a beefy dinghy on the platform with it offset all the way to the aft edge and beyond. Having those supports will make me sleep better at night knowing it'll dramatically reduce the point loads higher up on the transom.

Having the struts included also pushed me over the edge on not trying to DIY install this thing. Holes in the transom below the water line...time to break out the check book :)

what size and weight Dinghy did you purchase?
 
I just purchased a Highfield 340 with a console.
I am going to try it on the swim platform of my 370 this year. Unless I get the new boat I’m hoping to find. Hopefully there is no problem with it hanging on the back. Searay rates the platform for 500 Lbs.
I have had 6 or seven buddy’s on it at once that’s a lot more than 500 lbs.
the difference is that they are not all standing on the outer edge of it in rough water.
 
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I purchased this from www.swimplatforms.com. There are several boats near me at my marina that have bought from them in the past, all very pleased.

One note - I ordered my platform mid-December. The leadtimes are pretty significant so if you want one for spring/summer 2021 you may want to get into their queue sooner rather than later.
This looks to probably be next years project! Cant wait for your pictures with it installed!
 
Just in case you all were wondering how to find the crazy people in upstate NY, we’re the ones polishing the bilge steps to pass the winter. Spring can’t come soon enough
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Just in case you all were wondering how to find the crazy people in upstate NY, we’re the ones polishing the bilge steps to pass the winter. Spring can’t come soon enough
When you get done, come on down to TN and it's already warm enough to start polishing the gelcoat!
 
Got the email from my marina yesterday - "expect to hear launch schedules starting April 1"!

My storage facility was a flurry of activity yesterday. I've been solo in my room/building the last 3-4 times I've been out. I bet there were 10 of us in there yesterday. Getting serious now...
 
Ok, looking to take delivery of my new to me 99 400DA, have 3116 350HP cats, what are you seeing for fuel burn at cruising RPM, 2200 or so? Will be doing about a 130 mile voyage from Kent Island MD to Little Creek, Virginia Beach VA. Planning on how much fuel i am going to burn. Boat will most likely be full of fuel. Best part its supposed to be upper 60s to 70s Thursday :) Thanks everyone for the help so far.

Josh
 
Just in case you all were wondering how to find the crazy people in upstate NY, we’re the ones polishing the bilge steps to pass the winter. Spring can’t come soon enough
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We did this all the time on our Navy ships. Looked really good.
 
Ok, looking to take delivery of my new to me 99 400DA, have 3116 350HP cats, what are you seeing for fuel burn at cruising RPM, 2200 or so? Will be doing about a 130 mile voyage from Kent Island MD to Little Creek, Virginia Beach VA. Planning on how much fuel i am going to burn. Boat will most likely be full of fuel. Best part its supposed to be upper 60s to 70s Thursday :) Thanks everyone for the help so far.

Josh
1 MPG, give or take, at 2400 RPMs.
 
What is that roughly speed wise? 22 knots?

An even better question would be what the conditions were like. :) A bit of chop will really get after your fuel burn.

Will you be making any stops along the way? Five hours without stopping to enjoy the scenery is no way to go through life!
 
Just in case you all were wondering how to find the crazy people in upstate NY, we’re the ones polishing the bilge steps to pass the winter. Spring can’t come soon enough
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Awesome! Mine are looking a little chalky, is there an easy way to do this?
 
What is that roughly speed wise? 22 knots?
@knotonduty Yes - ~22 kts, ~25 mph. What I gave you was a general rule of thumb for what we see with the 400DA with Cat 3116s. Sedan Bridge is the same hull and about the same fuel results.

Obviously, this will vary based on conditions, load, current, wind, bottom growth, blah blah blah. There have been many threads that discussed this, but I thought it would be unhelpful to point you to those when I could just summarize the outcome.

The engines will burn a specific amount of fuel at a specific RPM. The factor is how fast the boat is traveling at that RPM. I've attached the CAT fuel burn chart for your reference.

Also, these fuel burn threads tend to devolve into a gas vs diesel discussion, so be forewarned. ;)

Congrats on the new boat - you made a great choice!
 

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An even better question would be what the conditions were like. :) A bit of chop will really get after your fuel burn.

Will you be making any stops along the way? Five hours without stopping to enjoy the scenery is no way to go through life!

Yeah i know all about environmentals, lots of trips from Jacksonville, FL to Norfolk, VA on the Navy ships... driving into the gulfstream sucks ass, or on the St. Lawrence river into the 7 knot current on a 18k ton vessel doesn't help fuel mileage either haha. Looks like perfect weather, hoepfully ill catch an ebbing tide.

Would love to make stops, but unfortunately i need to get her down to her new home and put up, as i will be flying to San Diego for a week, to inspect ESB-5 USNS Miguel Keith in which the Navy will fully accept it and it will be ready to start performing its mission. Want to see a cool ship look that thing up.
 
@knotonduty Yes - ~22 kts, ~25 mph. What I gave you was a general rule of thumb for what we see with the 400DA with Cat 3116s. Sedan Bridge is the same hull and about the same fuel results.

Obviously, this will vary based on conditions, load, current, wind, bottom growth, blah blah blah. There have been many threads that discussed this, but I thought it would be unhelpful to point you to those when I could just summarize the outcome.

The engines will burn a specific amount of fuel at a specific RPM. The factor is how fast the boat is traveling at that RPM. I've attached the CAT fuel burn chart for your reference.

Also, these fuel burn threads tend to devolve into a gas vs diesel discussion, so be forewarned. ;)

Congrats on the new boat - you made a great choice!


Thank you, and thank you for the info.

I was just looking for a baseline and a rough estimate on how much fuel i expect to burn. Hopping to catch an ebbing tide to help me out :) Have spent the past 23 years in the Navy as a engineer, last tour was Chief Engineer on a LCS, nothing like running 44 knots on a 400 ft ship. :)

Both diesel and gas have their pro's and con's, but i plan on doing a lot of long trips so the diesel was a better fit for me.
 
Awesome! Mine are looking a little chalky, is there an easy way to do this?

I used some old shurhold buff magic. I wasn't a huge fan of it for gelcoat, but it works wonders as a metal polish. If you don't have that, any decent metal polish compound and a microfiber will shine them up nice.

The step comes off with 4 philips head screws and gave good access to clean up the forward bilge as well.
 

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