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Matt said:
Also I have another question I can't for the life of me find a garboard drain plug in my bilge. every winter I end up with ice buildup in my bilge because there is no drain that I can find.
Anyone solved this problem?

Matt
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My '03 does not have drain plug either. I know of two items that leak during rain events. The rear compartment hatch on the swim platform and the two side engine vents (technically that's three, but I count them as two). I'm betting these are contributing to the water/ice build up.
 
Okay good thought. maybe what I need to do during storage is seal up the engine vents. I did clear out the leak hole in the rear storage but I know that it always seems a bit wet in there.
During the winter I used to have the boat shrink wrapped and still there was water buildup in the bilge. the shrink wrapping caused more problems than it solved so I don't do that any longer.

Thanks for the ideas.
 
Matt said:
Okay good thought. maybe what I need to do during storage is seal up the engine vents. I did clear out the leak hole in the rear storage but I know that it always seems a bit wet in there.
During the winter I used to have the boat shrink wrapped and still there was water buildup in the bilge. the shrink wrapping caused more problems than it solved so I don't do that any longer.

Thanks for the ideas.
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Not sure why shrink wrapping would cause more of an issue. Seems like something else is going on. My guess is that you have water remaining in your bilge pump line and the check valve (at least that is what I call them) is slowly allowing it to leak back into the bilge. You may want to look at that as a source of "leak". Just a thought.
 
There always seems to be some water in my bilge. Never enough to activate the pumps. I wish they made a pump that gets rid of all the water. Over the winter I did burst a shower connection. since then I don't know where the water comes from. I'm pretty sure there is no garboard plug.
 
What I meant was that the shrink wrap did not help the water problem. I end up having enough water in the bilge to be up to the bottom of the generator water strainer after winter has ended. the shrink wrap caused chafing problems on the hull and the boat was more dirty with the cover than without. now I use a winter bridge cover and cockpit cover. so I am not sure where all the water is coming from???
 
Ive seen the threads someplace about mattress's for our boats. I don't believe it was in this thread so im asking here. I just got off the phone w HCM mattress for the forward stateroom bed with the hinge. I saw another 40 at my marina with it. The style he had was the least expensive and it was $1900 w the hinge. Being im normally drunk when I pass out =) I don't are as much the wife. But a comfy mattress is nice. $1900 not so much.

Who has gone where and at what price point?

KtC
 
Nepenthe said:
The sub is in the factory location on the bridge and sounds excellent both there and in the salon as well. I would like to add a second sub to the cockpit, but have have yet to figure out an "ideal" location.
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More specifically, where is the factory location? I have added a sub, but it is tucked under the helm currently. Not sure I want to leave it there and just curious where factory sub was installed....thanks.


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Matt said:
What I meant was that the shrink wrap did not help the water problem. I end up having enough water in the bilge to be up to the bottom of the generator water strainer after winter has ended. the shrink wrap caused chafing problems on the hull and the boat was more dirty with the cover than without. now I use a winter bridge cover and cockpit cover. so I am not sure where all the water is coming from???
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Being in Mass, I expect you are on the hard for winter. And to confirm, when you were shrink wrapping, did the same water circumstance occur? I believe the answer is yes from your posts. One other thing, did you taste the water to determine if it is fresh or salt (if you are doing saltwater boating)?

Given that amount of water, the sources are going to be limited. Sources to consider would be 1-water tank (hopefully you have emptied that each season so doubtful that is a source, 2-holding tank (hopefully you have emptied for each winter layup, and I don't recommend tasting that one to find out), 3-residual water in engines leaking out through aged/cracked hoses somewhere, 4-if it only happened when you didn't shrink wrap, then you have a leak from the deck or bridge to allow that much water to get in. Water can feasibly come in from ER vent holes, but that would require a lot of constant rain with heavy winds blowing it up into the openings (doesn't seem likely to me). However, I was in the ER when my boat was being washed and somehow water was leaking in on the port side where the salon and bridge stairs come together. There is a "seam" in that spot where the water was coming into the ER. I was surprised at how much water was coming in. I haven't seen it happen since. The only thing I could think of to cause that was he must have been seriously spraying directly at the ER vent holes.

Hope this helps you think through what may be causing the water. Perhaps others will chime in with some thoughts......good luck.


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I am on the hard for the winter although I have done in water a few times. all the tanks are drained and the mechanical engines and generator were winterized with anitfreeze. the water is in the bilge is fresh water I think it's geeting in at the hatch above the generator. I have noticed that when I wash the cockpit that there us water in the bilge under the hatch. also that the rear battery trays get full water in them after washing so I am thinking that the drain on the side where the mains batteries are may be leaking. I only have the water collect because the batteries are off and the pups are shut off at the aft locker breaker panel so sitting all winter with snow and rain a lot of water seems to collect in the bilge. when she is in the water I get nothing in the bilge unless I wash the aft deck then I see water under the hatch on the bilge floor.
I will be at the boat getting her ready for launch and I am going to do some closer checking on the drains. I must admit that when I was having her covered the water buildup was not near as bad maybe a couple of gallons thinking back on it but they did a crappy job both times covering the boat with shrink and made a real mess with when they cut the strapping on the boat. they also had nothing between the strapping and where it contacted the deck and arch so those were scraped up as well. so I got fed up with paying top dollar and having a crappy job done. that was why I had the winter cover for the bridge and a winter aft enclosure made up.
 
mjmason1 said:
There always seems to be some water in my bilge. Never enough to activate the pumps. I wish they made a pump that gets rid of all the water. Over the winter I did burst a shower connection. since then I don't know where the water comes from. I'm pretty sure there is no garboard plug.
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A lot of guys carry a small wet/dry vac to get all the water up.
 
PMC said:
A lot of guys carry a small wet/dry vac to get all the water up.
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I use the "bucket head vac" from home depot and a 5 gallon bucket. Easy to stow and has several uses.


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In my short ownership I can tell you that when there is a lot of heavy rain the front engine room bilge gets water. On my boat it is actually coming in from the aft port area and running along the port floor channel up to that bilge area. I think it is from some drain hoses for vents and such.

The rear engine room bilge stays dry in dock on my boat. Sometimes I get sea water in there when cruising. Haven't tried to hunt for that source because it's not very much.

I got water in the cabin rear bilge from a leaky show sump and leaky water fittings that feed the galley sink.

The trunk always has water in it because the drain holes aren't at floor level.
 
Matt said:
I am on the hard for the winter although I have done in water a few times. all the tanks are drained and the mechanical engines and generator were winterized with anitfreeze. the water is in the bilge is fresh water I think it's geeting in at the hatch above the generator. I have noticed that when I wash the cockpit that there us water in the bilge under the hatch. also that the rear battery trays get full water in them after washing so I am thinking that the drain on the side where the mains batteries are may be leaking. I only have the water collect because the batteries are off and the pups are shut off at the aft locker breaker panel so sitting all winter with snow and rain a lot of water seems to collect in the bilge. when she is in the water I get nothing in the bilge unless I wash the aft deck then I see water under the hatch on the bilge floor..
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The drain in the cockpit hatch channel threads apart just like a thru-hull, take it apart and reseal it if that is where it is coming from. Water running down over your batteries is going to cause corrosion problems with any metallic items it touches (bonding wires, hold downs, etc) Water that constantly lies in bilges will eventually cause problems if your pump and float screws lose a seal at the bilge floor. I know it can be a challenge to get them dry
 
To try and find the leak go down in the bilge, close the hatch and have someone wash the cockpit. I think mine leaks as well. It's just cheap bilge pump hose.
 
I had to get behind both sides of the trunk to take off the bench seat backrest. The port side panel was easy to remove and pull out of the way as only electrical connections are there with plenty of slack in the wires. But the starboard side panel wouldn't budge. So I cut a 4" hole in it to stick my arm in. Here's a picture. I plan to put a cover over it. While I was there I found a leak at a garden hose style fitting at the pressure regulator for the shore water inlet. So I removed that stretch of plumbing, tightened everything down and put it back together. So I think this access hole will have long term uses. If I had to do it again I would have gone with a 5" hole to give my arm more wiggle room.
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I had to clear a blocked screen in the dock water inlet last weekend. I struggled with the starboard panel for quite some time until I removed the valve wheel from the fresh water out faucet. The panel came right out with a little twist and pull, then. I still experience dock water pressure that is quite a bit weaker than the pressure put out by the pumps for the tank water. It could be the pressure regulator but I'm not sure. Any thoughts?


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Here is what I found on the water inlet side. Two reducing fittings to go from 15mm Pex to 3/4 garden hose fitting for the check valve (not sure if it's just a check valve or also a regulator). You may have a leak along that path. I found two leaks. One at the garden hose fitting and one at the Pex fitting.
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Prosideus said:
More specifically, where is the factory location? I have added a sub, but it is tucked under the helm currently. Not sure I want to leave it there and just curious where factory sub was installed....thanks.


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The factory location, at least on my boat, is on the port side of the bridge near the 6.5" speaker.
 
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