.40 caliber Sig Saurer

[Gofirstclass]

Any of you gun slingers have any action stories to tell ? Shot someone and avoided jail time ?

Without going into detail, I'm 1 for 1 in shootouts. He had a 12 gauge, I had my Model 66 duty gun. One round fired (by me), one bad guy down. Nuff said.

Clean shooting; no jail time for me.

And for the record, I despise your use of the term "gun slingers". I own several and use them to protect myself and those I love.

It's funny that some people abhor religion. Others abhor guns.

With both groups if someone is trying to break into their house the first thing they do is call someone with guns (the cops) and pray the cops get there in time to save their sorry asses!

 

[dwna1a]

Any of you gun slingers have any action stories to tell ? Shot someone and avoided jail time ?

One, no shots fired. After having no power for over a week someone tried to get into our home. I had no ammo but I did have my 12 gauge pump. I dry loaded the gun right beside the door. Bad guy took off! I have plenty of ammo now!

Ive been shot at twice while doing a rescue for a dealer that had been shot six times. As we all laid there in that ditch I was very thankful the shooter had crappy aim. So was the victim

You can call me whatever you want but keep this in your mind. I train and qualify with my firearms. I go to and use a simulator that teaches me what to look for and how to handle situations. Still I pray I never have to pull my gun, when I do it will not be a spray and pray and if the sight of my gun stops just one bad guy from hurting you or one of your family then it was well worth my time and efforts. Still, you can call me whatever name you want.

 

[k9medic]

You can call me whatever you want but keep this in your mind. I train and qualify with my firearms. I go to and use a simulator that teaches me what to look for and how to handle situations. .

FATS Machine?

I get to do some training for work every now and then too... Tennis ball taped to support hand to simulate an injury, and the range officer calls out the position number to shoot through. You might go from position 3 to 7 then to position 1.

A close eye might also spot water on the rifle. "It it ain't raining, it ain't training."

 

[dwna1a]

Yes. Not as tough as with I see you doing but it is nerve racking. Night shoots are very tough on me but I'm getting better

 

[boatman37]

i like night shoots. we had to train and qualify in low light shooting. the muzzle blast was a sight to see.

simulators are awesome training tools. very realistic. heart pounding and sweaty palms even though it was a 'simulation'

 

[Gofirstclass]

So, Scoflaw, you posed the question to us gunslingers, what say you? Anything you'd like to share?

 

[scoflaw]

Didn't think the term gun slinger would be offensive. I myself have had a concealed carry permit for 40 years. So... never had to use it yet!

What I can say, is not having my gun with me 1 day when I got jumped by 2 of my neighbors , kept me out of prison. If I had the weapon on me I would have shot at least 1 of them. So instead of a shooting it turned into a fist fight. Neither of them were armed, so chances are real good I would be the 1 doing time.

Woody, never looked that law up, was just going on local here say.

Obviously LEO plays by a different set of rules when it comes to shooting people.

 

[k9medic]

Obviously LEO plays by a different set of rules when it comes to shooting people.

Yep, charged and convicted in the court of public opinion regardless of the facts.

To answer your original question though, I've pointed a gun at someone on many occasions and can vividly recall starting to squeeze the trigger only once. My partner wound up coming through the side door and tackling the bad guy from the side. From my front view all I could see was the BG reaching back into the door of the house. My partner was coming through the house and saw he was reaching for a shotgun. My partner got to the BG before he got to the shotgun.

 

[Banagy]

S & W 38 sp 2" lazer grips. Nice boat gun. Have a cpl. As a back up 357 presidental 6", seven shot. Enough said.

 

[JVM225]

As a former law enforcement armorer, certified pistolsmith, firearms instructor and PPC shooter with a Distinguished rating, let me reply to this comment....
"You pull the trigger, it goes bang, every single time."

If you want absolute reliability and don't want to have to stop your shooting after a malfunction to (a) recognize what the problem is, (b) correct the problem, and (c) return to shooting, buy a revolver.

They are the closest thing to a foolproof handgun that one can buy. Now don't all of you jump on my back and talk about all of the advantages to carrying a semi-auto. I know 'em all. I used to teach a class to LEO's that were making the transition to semi-auto's from revolvers.

I'm just saying that, after working on just about every kind of semi-auto out there in my years as an armorer, if you want the gun to go bang every time you pull the trigger, buy a revolver. Even if you get a misfire with a revolver, you just pull the trigger again and it goes bang.

Now, all that being said, I own and carry a S&W .40 that came out of S&W's Custom Gun Shop, a S&W 9mm model 469, and a S&W .38 model 60.

Great advice. I agree 100%! I'm also a retired LEO who carried revolvers for years before my department transitioned to semi-autos.
I love my Sig 226, really like my Kahr K9, still have my S&W model 10 becaue I love the way it shoots, but always wind up carrying my trusty old S&W Model 36 because it's so easy to conceal, I know it will never let me down. After 35 years, it almost feels like another limb.

 

[Gofirstclass]

Elmer Keith, a famed gun slinger from days past once said (paraphrasing here...)"Beware of the man who only owns one gun, for he knows how to use it."

I hated to have to give up my Model 66 4" duty gun for a semi auto. That's what saved my hide when I had my shootout. Shooting off hand, ~15 yards without using the sights, the bullet hit about 2" from where my eyes were focused. See the target, hit the target. I loved the accuracy in that gun.

I carried a Mode 60 in an ankle holster as a back up. I shot both of em enough that I could qualify on the 50 yard PPC course with my 60.

 

[BlewByYou88]

Sig P229 .40 Elite (Night Sights)....Love it, never had an issue!

 

[quality time]

Looking to purchase my first handgun for home defense and possible concealed carry in the future. On paper I've narrowed it down to the Springfield XDm, G19 or M&P 9c or Shield - all in 9mm. Any other additions to my list before I go shopping/testing?

I'm 5'11" and weigh 160 so I'm thinking compact or sub compact.


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[LTD.330]

Looking to purchase my first handgun for home defense and possible concealed carry in the future. On paper I've narrowed it down to the Springfield XDm, G19 or M&P 9c or Shield - all in 9mm. Any other additions to my list before I go shopping/testing?

I'm 5'11" and weigh 160 so I'm thinking compact or sub compact.

Those are all solid choices for a self-defense gun. It really comes down to your personal preference.

To carry a concealed handgun comfortably you will need a quality holster and purpose made stiff gun belt. I carry a G19 IWB (Inside Waist Band) using a Comp-Tac CTac kydex holster. The gun disappears and is very comfortable to wear for extended periods.

 

[Gofirstclass]

QT, one thing you should do with each gun if you have the opportunity is to test how it fits in your hand. To do this, close your eyes and pick up the gun. Hold it out in front of you at arms length (eyes still closed) and "aim" it. Then open your eyes. If the gun fits your hand and your grip, you should be able to see the front and rear sight and it should be pointed at your imagined target.

The reason for this is in the heat of a gunfight you likely will not slow down enough to use your sights. If the gun does not point well when you're holding it, you will not likely hit your target.

I'm a firm believer in laser sights on a handgun, especially for someone who is new to guns and is not likely to practice A LOT!. Lasers take all the guess work out of shooting. You see the target, paint it with the laser and pull the trigger. Easy Peasy.

 

[boatman37]

i have never used a laser and we were actually advised against it. but then again that was for LE. the theory was if the laser batteries died would you still be able to function? would you panic? would you be able to use your sights?

but yes, most self defense shootings are very close range and sights really aren't needed or used. point and shoot.

 

[Gofirstclass]

boatman, while I wouldn't necessarily recommend them for LE, I think they're a great tool for non-shooters who want to learn how to shoot. A neighbor friend of ours inherited a S&W 66 4" when her hubby died. She wanted to learn how to shoot but that gun was way too big for her hands. In addition to being in her 70's she has small hands and some arthritis problems in her hands.

We traded the 66 into a gun store for a J-frame with rubber grips that had a built in laser. That was a lot better but still big for her hands. I shaved the rubber grips down using a Dremel Moto-tool until they fit her a lot better. Now, even with the other issues (age & arthritis) she's good for center of mass hits about 90% of the time at 10 yards, and about 75% of the time at 15 yards.

We spent several hours going through her house and I showed her how to do a "search" for a bad guy if she heard someone breaking in. She's a quick learner, understands the concepts of searching and protecting the gun at the same time and now feels a LOT safer living alone.

 

[k9medic]

The reason for this is in the heat of a gunfight you likely will not slow down enough to use your sights. If the gun does not point well when you're holding it, you will not likely hit your target.

I'm a firm believer in laser sights on a handgun, especially for someone who is new to guns and is not likely to practice A LOT!. Lasers take all the guess work out of shooting. You see the target, paint it with the laser and pull the trigger. Easy Peasy.

I agree. The first agency I was with issued a SW 5906 and we had the lasermax guide rod laser. Pretty nifty tool to use when under stress.

From those that have BTDT, they always say the same thing -the funny thing about gun fights is the fact that they never go as planned.

 

[Gofirstclass]

OK, bear with me. I know this gun isn't a handgun, but my son just built this so I thought I'd share it. Details below....

It's a .308 built on a Remington 700 action

He built the gun then took it to Seattle to have the powder coating done



Yup, that's a silencer. It's legal, he has the stamp.





That camo pattern and color combo hides it pretty well.


He built the gun over the past summer and just had it powder coated. He said it will shoot about 1/2 MOA on 100 yard targets. He lives out in the boontoolies and is lucky enough to have a 300 yard range right on the property. Needless to say, they have a few less coyotes than they used to have.

He's pretty happy with the way the gun came out.

 

[carterchapman]

Looking to purchase my first handgun for home defense and possible concealed carry in the future. On paper I've narrowed it down to the Springfield XDm, G19 or M&P 9c or Shield - all in 9mm. Any other additions to my list before I go shopping/testing?

I'm 5'11" and weigh 160 so I'm thinking compact or sub compact.


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Aaron - add the Glock 43 to your "look" list...