320 Bypassing Hot Water Heater

[skolbe]

As the guy who asked the original question. Pulling the hot water line is not a big deal. But I will say that getting advise that doesn't work on a specific model boat can be frustrating. On another project I did get some advice that was wrong and ended up buying $200 worth of parts I didn't need. One thing with Sea Ray is they use a lot of exclusive and proprietary parts - that other boat mfg's don't use. So, the things that work in general on another brand do not always work on Sea Ray's.

 

[Four Suns]

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[douglee25]

Did you ever think that that the manufacturer changed equipment throughout their build year? It happens all the time. So while the one guy who owns a 320 manufactured in January says the kit can't be used, he's correct hecause his water heater is 2 inches bigger than the other guy's water heater who's 320 was manufactured in October. Sometimes the manufacturer will also change the location of various items over the course of the year. Again, just because one guy says it doesn't work, doesn't mean that it applies to every boat of the same model. This doesn't even take into account how some peoplpe may have more ingenuity than the next.

Use some common sense, download some specs on the kit, go take some measurements, and do your homework.

Doug

 

[wkearney99]

That depends...are you a slow learner?

Will you continue to give "advice" on topics you know nothing about, or will you go away?

-CJ

No, just for you I'll stick around and 'help' raise your blood pressure.

 

[topgun1185]

Well to be exact I just did it. As listed earlier post remove the blue hose (cold in) and the red (hot out) from the water heater. No tools are needed fittings are hand tight. Then I used a 6" brass niple 1/2" pipe thread and connect it two each of the female hose ends that I removed. Then open the hose bib drain on the bottom of the water heater ( it's the one with no hose attached) and opened the pressure valve (lifting the little metal lever). The water heater is now by passed simple, easy, save $. This works on my boat. good Luck!!

 

[jg300da]

Well looky there...sounds like some folks owe the Four Winns guy an apology......or at least a ham sandwich.

 

[douglee25]

Many different ways to skin a cat....

 

[rondds]

Ok all you brainiacs! Here's why you cant bypass the magical and mysterious HWH in the 320. Now we can all understand the problem...

 

[topgun1185]

great picture

 

[CJ Martin]

Did you ever think that that the manufacturer changed equipment throughout their build year? It happens all the time. So while the one guy who owns a 320 manufactured in January says the kit can't be used, he's correct hecause his water heater is 2 inches bigger than the other guy's water heater who's 320 was manufactured in October. Sometimes the manufacturer will also change the location of various items over the course of the year. Again, just because one guy says it doesn't work, doesn't mean that it applies to every boat of the same model. This doesn't even take into account how some peoplpe may have more ingenuity than the next.

Use some common sense, download some specs on the kit, go take some measurements, and do your homework.

Doug

FAIL

Download some specs on the kit? LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. The only way to tell if that damn thing will fit is to buy it, try it, and see for yourself. The "specs" for the kit in question do not include detailed clearence drawings.

-CJ

 

[CJ Martin]

No, just for you I'll stick around and 'help' raise your blood pressure.

Slow learner it is...

...and pointing out stupidity is something of a hobby for me, so actually you are lowering my blood pressure.

-CJ

 

[Four Suns]

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[douglee25]

FAIL

Download some specs on the kit? LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. The only way to tell if that damn thing will fit is to buy it, try it, and see for yourself. The "specs" for the kit in question do not include detailed clearence drawings.

-CJ

I didn't know I was taking a test? McFly, it was a general statement. You must have been picked on as a child. Poor soul....

Doug

 

[wkearney99]

Download some specs on the kit? LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. The only way to tell if that damn thing will fit is to buy it, try it, and see for yourself.

The pictures of it on most websites are informative. Having installed the kit I can offer that the fittings do protrude about 3" from the front of the tank. So where your existing hoses connect you'd need about 3" (no more) clearance to allow for the bypass kit to be installed. That is, if your hot water heater tank has regular plumbing pipe thread fittings. I can't imagine anyone making a proprietary hot water heater connection (at the tank itself) but anything is possible.

Now, when you get out to the tubing that distributes the water you're in for a whole other rats nest of complications. Or so I've heard from others. I've only had to deal with 15mm Whale tubing fittings, fortunately.

 

[wkearney99]

..and pointing out stupidity is something of a hobby for me, so actually you are lowering my blood pressure.

Every fool has to have a hobby, shame yours relies on being so petty.

 

[Dave S]

I won't offer any specific advice on bypassing the water heater. But I would like to remind everyone if you have the newer screw on water hoses like I have on my 260DA (pictured below), the potential for leaks after those are disconnected is pretty high because they don't reseal well.

You can read one of my postings on this matter and what I did to finally fix the issue on my boat. http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6463&highlight=connector

 

[JAFI]

Isn't there some saying about "Better to keep your mouth shut and let them think you are stupid than open your mouth and let them know you are stupid." ??!

Now that brings back some memories. I've heard that quite a few time from my Grandfather. Most of the time he was talking to me!!

That memory is one reason for more surfing the threads and less posting.

 

[CJ Martin]

I didn't know I was taking a test? McFly, it was a general statement. You must have been picked on as a child. Poor soul....

Doug

Try reading the the thread title...this wasn't a "general" question, it was specific to a specific model of Sea Ray. I own one, you do not. Who is better qualified to answer this specific question?

This forum is really hitting the skids. Once it was a place to go and get Sea Ray specific advice. It may still be that, but people have to wade through "general" advice that may or may not apply to their question. Good job, non-Sea Ray owners! For whatever reason you don't own a Sea Ray, so you've decided to pollute the Sea Ray forum with your "advice". Why else would you be here? I can't imagine having the time to hang out on the Four Winns or Bayliner (or whatever) forums and offering advice about something I know nothing about.

Who is the poor soul again?

-CJ

 

[Newbie]

Man, I really hate to do this but Kearney is always getting bashed and in many cases, it appears its out of "Gary envy" So here I am just pointing out what seems obvious. Heres the post Kearney replied to

Help I have 2002 340. How do you detach the red and blue hose from the hot water system and is there a way to join them together to by pass the hw heater. Then if I am correct all I have to do is open the drain valve and the heater will drain itself.

Help with this wll be appreciated

Kearney's reply, note use of pipe nipple

Camco makes kits for this. Or you can use a pipe nipple and manually thread the lines together. The valves make it a bit easier to do it in the future. That and you only have to deal with moving and turning the hoses once.

You unscrew the lines at the heater itself and attach the kit parts. This re-routes the water into the heater, bypassing it. You then open the pressure valve and the drain spigot and the tank will drain.

CJ's post. I've nothing to add other than Kearney was replying about a 340 owners question. Is he familiar with the 02 340? I sure as hell don't know, do you?

This is the second time you've suggested using a bypass kit on the 320DA water heater.

Do you have a 320DA? Of course you don't. Why? Because if you did, you would know you CAN'T USE OFF THE SHELF BYPASS KIT. I know I can't. I bought one, and because of the way things are plumbed/routed, there is NO ROOM to install said kit without making changes (i.e using a longer hose). Instead, AS I ALREADY NOTED IN THIS THREAD, I use a short section of pipe, threaded on both ends to connect the hot and cold water lines together.

Here's a TIP "wkearney" - stay the hell out of threads that ask for SEA RAY, MODEL-SPECIFIC advice. YOU AREN'T HELPING ANYONE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

That should about cover it.

-CJ

I couldn't agree with you more (in red) but the rest is a little harsh, no? He did recommend the same pipe nipple in which you use along with the kit. I'm gonna take a guess that you failed to notice his reply was for a 340 owner and not a 320???

Slow learner it is...

...and pointing out stupidity is something of a hobby for me, so actually you are lowering my blood pressure.

-CJ

Try reading the the thread title...this wasn't a "general" question, it was specific to a specific model of Sea Ray. I own one, you do not. Who is better qualified to answer this specific question?

This forum is really hitting the skids. Once it was a place to go and get Sea Ray specific advice. It may still be that, but people have to wade through "general" advice that may or may not apply to their question. Good job, non-Sea Ray owners! For whatever reason you don't own a Sea Ray, so you've decided to pollute the Sea Ray forum with your "advice". Why else would you be here? I can't imagine having the time to hang out on the Four Winns or Bayliner (or whatever) forums and offering advice about something I know nothing about.

Who is the poor soul again?

-CJ

"i own one, you do not" should read a little more like-
I own one, wait, no I don't, the question answered was for a 340............stupid me. .

Like Kearney, I'm sure I'll be hated forever now for posting this. Oh well, take a ticket, stand in line. The deisel guys already hated us members of the gas crowd anyways :lol: SB

 

[DCarl320]

Like Kearney, I'm sure I'll be hated forever now for posting this. Oh well, take a ticket, stand in line. The deisel guys already hated us members of the gas crowd anyways SB

Nah Newbie, you just won the John McCain award for being a Maverick and going against your party. While reaching across the isle to Kearney LOL!!! :grin: :lol::smt043:lol::grin: