rcknecht
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4 out 5 Vampires agree with this comment...
2012 50 Sundancer
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- Aug 25, 2008
- 1,819
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- 2006 320 V-Drives 6.2s, Bow Thruster, Generator, Raymarine C80, Radar, Fish Finder
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- 6.2 Horizons 320HP
The exhaust looks pretty small for a diesel. Please tell me that Sea Ray did not put gas engines in that monster.
- Jan 26, 2008
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- SOLD 2005 420 DA w/T-8.1S Horizons
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- 2018 Sea Hunt 255se w/Yamaha 300hp
Yes, you are a strange guy! :wink:
- Jan 26, 2008
- 2,839
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- SOLD 2005 420 DA w/T-8.1S Horizons
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- 2018 Sea Hunt 255se w/Yamaha 300hp
I was told Zeus diesels. Not sure which ones though. There's absolutely no way gas engines could be used on this boat. It's huge.
Pietro
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...probably because I started my life afloat as a sailboater :smt021
Bridog
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Give them a few years. The new 330DA is the same size as the old 300DA so in 5 years the 50 Sundancer will be the same size as the old 340 and availabe with stern drives. Which will then be called the "Novascape 50"
http://clubsearay.com/showthread.php/46808-New-Sea-Ray-Model-28-38
Alex F
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- Nov 14, 2006
- 9,166
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- 2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Electronics (2x12" MFDs) with Vesper AIS
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- Cummins 450Cs, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
Rod,
A simpler scenario (no need other boats around) just a "nice" wind gust whie docking near one of those huge metal u-shape floating dock holders around pilings. Something that might be just a scratch on the white fiberglass (DIY repair item) could easily turn in to a major project and I won't even attempt to guess what that window replacement will cost.
Boulder GT3
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I"m with you on the risk. This summer I was in the Bahamas and saw a 48DA that had popped one of it's windows in rough conditions at the Tongue of the Ocean. They went about 2 hours in rough seas without knowing the window seal had failed. Lot's of salt water in the boat. The yard it was at said it wasn't the first issue with the those type of windows. I know failures are rare but still, it's something to think about.
- Feb 4, 2007
- 7,251
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- 1996 450DA, TNT, Caribe dink w/15hp OB.
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- 3126 427HP TD transmissions
That boat looks sweet. great lines. But any windows below the rub rail makes me nervous. I boat in rough weather and I can't image having windows that close to the water.
Alex F
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- Nov 14, 2006
- 9,166
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- 2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Electronics (2x12" MFDs) with Vesper AIS
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- Cummins 450Cs, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
This reminds me a story I was reading in one of the boating magazines about a European brand cruiser (I don't recall 100%, but it could be Azimut 62 or something close) and in the rough seas the lost one port. The crew had to use pot's lids with towels to keep the water out.
I'm with you, Mike. It seams like the trend is driven by European designers to add larger windows to minimize the caving affect. We can see now American builders starting to follow the trend (just my personal observation). The boats do look very cool and sexy, but IMO, when push comes to shove it's way too much of a price to pay.
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Alex F
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- Nov 14, 2006
- 9,166
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- 2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Electronics (2x12" MFDs) with Vesper AIS
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- Cummins 450Cs, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
We saw this boat at a boat show. She looked cool and tons of light in the salon. But, after given her a quick tour I told my wife that I can't imagine getting caught in rough water on this boat. There's just too much that might break.
wetpaint
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As a DB owner myself, shouldn't we be more concerned about our windows? Just a thought? As with sailboats that are well built, I agree no windows or ports should really be below the rub rails........Then again, Searays are coastal cruisers
CV-23
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- Jun 25, 2010
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- 1990 270 Sundancer, 2003 Ford Excursion 4x4 Limited
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- 454 merCruiser w/Bravo 1
My Sundancer cabin does not seem like a cave.....plenty of light through the 6 windows/hatches I have and the windows still don't leak? I'm not a fan of windows below the rub rail but my next boat would be a sedan bridge anyways. I like getting out of the sun sometimes, Mike.
Alex F
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- Nov 14, 2006
- 9,166
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- 2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Electronics (2x12" MFDs) with Vesper AIS
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- Cummins 450Cs, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
John,
Interesting question. I don't know the official definition whether our DBs considered coastal or offshore, or have other limitations (they're obviosly not made to cross Atlantic, though) but comparing to profile of Viking Convertable our windows are not much different for the exception of one small port on port side below the rubrail.
I would imagine that yatchs like Viking are made for offshore.
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Pietro
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New Oyster 625, a splendid offshore cruiser... following the trend...
- Jan 26, 2008
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- SOLD 2005 420 DA w/T-8.1S Horizons
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- 2018 Sea Hunt 255se w/Yamaha 300hp
Is that a real window on the front of the cabin of the 420DB? The Viking is solid and has a faux front window allowing it to take a big hit head on.
Alex F
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- Nov 14, 2006
- 9,166
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- 2005 420DB with AB 11 DLX Tender, Raymarine Electronics (2x12" MFDs) with Vesper AIS
- Engines
- Cummins 450Cs, 9KW Onan Generator, 40HP Yamaha for tender.
New Oyster 625, a splendid offshore cruiser... following the trend...
The biggest difference in this type of design (as we see on some older DAs like 380...44..480..) is that it at least has 3 separate sections. This makes the actual glass surface smaller and adds supporting structure inbetween. I think this is the best way to find the "golden middle" between design and functinality.
I can't tell you much details other than it looks and feels very solid and I'd say meant to take a big hit head on as well. The other part that I like is that it's all sectional (3 front sections and 3 side sections on each side). So, you have much bigger chance that not all will fail and replaicement cost won't be astronamical either. I don't know how it is on the Vikings and other brands, but single window of that size just scares me in terms of replacement cost.
This is the only info we get from the parts manual:
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wetpaint
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Our boats are coastal cruisers (which still gets you everywhere you would want to go-bahamas, caribbean, etc.)......We dont carry enough fuel to be more than that anyway......If I wanted an offshore boat= Nordhavn
wetpaint
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Taylor Made Systems utilizes proprietary, in-house glass tempering and furnace operations at our facilities in Payne, Ohio; Bradenton, Florida; and Templemore, Ireland. Our ability to transform raw glass sheets into curved, wraparound, tempered safety glass windshields gives boat manufacturers maximum design flexibility, providing a competitive advantage.
Southpaw II
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If the designers and the marketing people didn't come up with something new every 5 years, they would be out of a job. I don't care for the new interior or exterior designs, but if it's like cars and clothes, it will probably grow on me after a while. I've never been a fan of colored hulls or the large windows/ports.
We can just wait another 15 years, and our 1996 - 2004 boats will all be back in style again, just like Dad's old neckties.
Don
We can just wait another 15 years, and our 1996 - 2004 boats will all be back in style again, just like Dad's old neckties.
Don
