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Remanufactured or OEM??? Replacing my MerCruiser 5.7 MPI

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#1 ·
I have a scored cylinder wall my 2003 MerCruiser 350 MPI and am planning to replace the engine, which had 450 hrs.

One mechanic has 5.7 L 300hp remanufactured long block to make a swap.

Another mechanic that is in the Searay dealership said it would be a massive mistake not to purchase an OEM Mercruiser block.

Mechanic won't explain why.

Does anyone know why it would be a massive mistake to use:

Remanufactured 5.7L Vortec (1997-up) Marine Base Engine
Marine Engines 4 Less

Part No:
ENG-2143MSR
One Year Parts & Labor Warranty.
 
#4 ·
There are a lot of parts that will swap over and once done, the aftermarket one will be the same as the OEM.
Sometimes a reman is better than new, since the reman is already a "seasoned" block and will maintain tolerances better than a raw new one.

Of course the dealer would state it is a "massive mistake" to not use the one they sell for a lot more money. OOff
 
#6 ·
You have to get a MARINE block, obviously. Other than that it's the same as buying a reman engine for a vehicle. As with a vehicle, the quality of remans VARY greatly. As examples, my mechanic tells me the Jasper Engines has a poor reputation for quality. Don't know about Michigan Motorz, which is another big one. Remans from the big reman distributors are hit and miss. I've heard stories of someone buying a reman and the inside of the valve covers were never cleaned properly and are still covered in oil varnish. You pay more for a Mercury reman block, but you know what you're getting. It's basically brand new. Overall, however, it's really a judgment call.
 
#9 ·
The engines turn the same direction, however the propellers turn opposite directions, the direction is changed in the transmission - one runs in reverse.
 
#11 ·
so I just received two new crate remanufactured engines. The boat comes out of the water this week for a dual engine swap. It will be interesting to tear down the current engines afterward to really understand what was going on.
Both have 450 hrs. Stbd is the one with the dead cylinder, but the port engine ran and sounded great.

Open to any great swap tips. Plan is to leave the shaft (Vee Drive) and transmission in place and pull engines only.
 
#12 ·
I would recommend doing everything that is easier to reach while the engines are out. Specifically that might mean things like shaft seals, rudder packings, etc. Also unless the manifolds and risers are brand new I would do them to along with new plugs and wires. I you have raw water pumps I would also do the service on them too. This will add to the cost but the labor will be much less since they are all readily accessible.

Also, unless these were full dressed motors it should only be the parts cost since they would need to be removed and reinstalled anyway. So the installation time should be the same.

-Kevin
 
#16 ·
I lost #7 cylinder on my 5.0 last summer. Rebuilder says valves were shot and rings leaking. I've owned the boat since 2020 and not sure how well it was maintained by the previous owner. Previous owner had the boat from new and always serviced by MM.
 
#20 ·
I definitely want to know what killed that cylinder. Also since you have the motor out get some spray nine and spray your bilge let it sit for 15-20 minutes and hose it out and clean your bilge up make it nice and pretty
 
#25 ·
Of note, one importance and an easy to overlook item for a crate long block replacement it to fill the engine block dip stick tube hole.

I had not noticed the steel plug in the side of my original MerCruiser blocks and my engines have the dip stick attachment to the oil pan drain plug so for my new blocks, there was an unplugged side hole.

We are waiting on plugs to tap in so fingers crossed they are the correct fit.
 
#27 ·
Leaking Stuffing Boxes on both shafts??!!
You kidding me? Any thoughts?

The engines when in well, mated with the transmission and got nice shaft coupling alignment.
Put into water and they fired right up but whoa, water was coming in at the shaft seals like crazy on both engines.

Are we missing something or did the Lip Seals dry up and die during the month of dry dock?

Thoughts are welcome.
1.) Yes there was a spare bearing on the shaft which was placed on backwards with the lip facing the transmission. Bad luck!
2.) Both Port and Starboard are leaking a lot at the seal from the lake water pressure while floating.

We had to pull the boat back out to dry dock on blocks and regroup.

Here is a photo of the shafts and stuffing boxes as it sat awaiting the engines.
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#29 ·
Nearly impossible!
The mechanic is very skinny and now I see why. I think that is a requirement to be a boat mech in some of the "engine rooms".

Anyhow, another cautionary note to others.

When the engines were pulled, the boat waited a few weeks on blocks.
Over that period, the lips of the shaft seals stuck to the shaft so that when it was engaged, the rotation tore the lip seals on both Port and Starboard.

In the future, with the engines removed, I would take the cover off the shaft seals and lube them good to not get dry and sticky. I asked the mechanic, after the engines were pulled to inspect the shaft seals and cutlass bearings to decide if we should pull the shafts and replace. "Ya they look good man" was the response. Had an actual inspection been preformed by a mechanic, they would have pulled the SureSeal cover and actually checked the bearings, and should have also noted that the back up set of seals in the carriers were placed backwards with the lip pointing toward the transmission.

Instead we learned all of this after the engines were in and the boat back in the water! Very costly oversight!