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need help with shower sump problem

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#1 · (Edited)
I just checked my shower sump for the first time this season and noticed it was full and leaking into the other sump just above the shower/ac sump box.

I lifted the float lever swithch on the side but the pump still would not come on. I checked the dc circuit breaker panel and the breaker did not trip.

How would I know if the pump is bad or the float switch?

If I have to replace either do I have to cut the wires and splice them or is there some way of disconecting at either unit?

The float is a Rule-A-Matic plus, the pump is Rule 600gph bilge pump.

Thanks in advance for any help
 
#2 ·
on the outside of the sump box there should be the wires from both the float and the bilge pump. If you have a meter you should have 12volt power on one of the grey wires from the float switch. If no power at all there is no power coming to the box. If you do have power you should cut or if you could unplug that wire from the boat side and touch it to the brown wire from the bilge pump. If the pump turns on your float switch is no good which is a common occurence. If the pump doesn't turn on you can make sure that you have good ground to the black wire to the pump. also look at the pump itself and make sure it looks rite, meaning some of them will overheat and melt which will discolor red and white color on the pump and even distort pump.
 
#3 ·
on the outside of the sump box there should be the wires from both the float and the bilge pump. If you have a meter you should have 12volt power on one of the grey wires from the float switch. If no power at all there is no power coming to the box. If you do have power you should cut or if you could unplug that wire from the boat side and touch it to the brown wire from the bilge pump. If the pump turns on your float switch is no good which is a common occurence. If the pump doesn't turn on you can make sure that you have good ground to the black wire to the pump. also look at the pump itself and make sure it looks rite, meaning some of them will overheat and melt which will discolor red and white color on the pump and even distort pump.
I got the system working again. I removed the mounting screws that keeps the float switch in place and I kept slamming the switch open and close after spraying some cleaning solution inside. I also repeatedly submurged the foat switch in a container of hot water and finally it started working, I think the contacts must have been gummed up, and the combination of the cleaning solution, hot water & working the float lever finally did the trick.

Thanks for all your help!
 
#7 ·
Yeah, I had to replace mine, and it is a VERY common problem, so check it often..
How reliable is the float switch and bilge pump closest to the transome? My generator sits right above both, it doesn't look like you can get at them without pulling the genset. I'm thinking that if these things are so unreliable, am I going to have to pull my generator to replace them and typically how often do they fail?
 
#9 ·
It's usually the sump pump for the shower in the cabin that fails.. not the ones in the bilge.
Do you think it's a cost issue why Sea Ray would use a less reliable/quality float switch and sump pump in the shower box?
 
#17 ·
I just noticed that I am getting water around my shower sump box in the cabin. It looks like it is coming from where the hose from the sump box meets the outside wall on the haul. I can't see down in the sump area but it I could feel the water coming from this area when the pump kicked on. It feels like this hose is just pushed in the hole in the haul and water is leaking from around the hose when the pump runs. I looked at the outside hole when the pump is running and it doesn't appear to be any blockage. Any suggestions?
 
#20 ·
we add cup of mister clean or other cleaning liquid each week before we leave and let it soak the sump for the week or so till we return..never a problem with scum build up or mold smell..
 
#23 ·
Anyone ever feel the need or desire to enlarge the holes on the shower drain? Seems like our want drain very well even when it's clear of any hair. As the water fills and with shampoo or cream rince even gets slower. The sump is fine and will handle the water with no problem but the drain grate itself seems to be the problem.
 
#25 ·