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My first experience with "Smoove" and a Dewalt cordless rotary

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#1 ·
Based on the threads I read from @Blueone last year I went ahead and bought the Smoove lineup of products for my 2022 waxing season. I also invested in a couple new tools for the job - a Dewalt 20V cordless rotary for the bulk of the work and a cheapo SPTA 3" rotary for the hard to reach areas. If I cant' get it right this year, I'm never doing it again!

My hull sides were not in bad shape so I used the Smoove "bubble gum" yesterday. 3 pads, 2 batteries and 1 beer got me through one side of the boat. Overall I like the entire setup. The Dewalt is slick. Though I don't think it's substantially lighter than the corded model I have, it's worlds easier to maneuver for a novice like me. As for the Smoove, it might be confirmation bias but I do believe it "cleaned up" a bit easier than the Presta I used two years ago. But I also believe I was using way too much polish the last time.

Another tool I picked up that I think made a big difference this year - a new light! You can see it in the photo below. Set to "illuminate your soul" @5000k and that thing kicks out some light. It was nice to see how playing with the speed of the rotary impacted the finish. When I started to see a bit of the "holographing" I pushed the speed a little higher for the final run and the marks went away.

I'm going to finish polishing both sides with the Bubble Gum and then finish with the White Cloud. Then I'm going to tackle the top side with all three products. My topside really needs a hardcore compounding. I look forward to seeing how it comes out...or if I royally mess it up :)

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#3 ·
Those look like green pads to me.

I jumped on the Smoove bandwagon last year and so far, so good. Pro-Cut as needed, but mainly just Bubble Gum. Very easy on and off. I bought the White Cloud and haven't used it yet. They released Ceramic Ice, so I picked that up and used it instead.

Very happy with the results thus far, I'd be even happier if my wash crew didn't use a soap that stripped it off! Needless to say, I'll be providing them Purpleicious in the spring or doing it myself.... it's just too easy to walk up to a freshly washed boat....so I already know the answer to that one!
 
#7 ·
What compound are you thinking of using for the topside? My topside needs help as well. They aren’t bad but not great either. I’ve used Meguiars cleaner wax and put a coat of Woody’s Wax on it, however it’s not doing the trick.
Smoove has 3 products. A compound, a polish and a polymer wax. So I’m using their compound “pro cut”.
 
#10 ·
@OllieC, my stern gets the afternoon and evening sun and I never was happy with its gloss. I peeled off the name and hit it with Pro Cut one afternoon...

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Funny story on the above picture. My slip neighbor has figured out I can't sit still and chill. I was touching up a small nick and the buffer hit the name, discoloring a small spot. Next thing you know I pulled it off and buffed the whole stern.

A quick hit of BG before launch last year...

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And after she was pulled out this past fall, I got a full coat of BG on by hand before covering her up with plastic...
 
#11 ·
@OllieC, my stern gets the afternoon and evening sun and I never was happy with its gloss. I peeled off the name and hit it with Pro Cut one afternoon...

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Funny story on the above picture. My slip neighbor has figured out I can't sit still and chill. I was touching up a small nick and the buffer hit the name, discoloring a small spot. Next thing you know I pulled it off and buffed the whole stern.

A quick hit of BG before launch last year...

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And after she was pulled out this past fall, I got a full coat of BG on by hand before covering her up with plastic...
Looks great! I’m ordering. My stern is a little scuffed and dull too. Thanks for the info.
 
#12 ·
I also invested in a Dewalt 20V cordless rotary

and 1 beer got me through one side of the boat
curious if the Dewalt cordless had the torque?

Seriously?….. one Ultra?… one Ultra??? :rolleyes:

I need 2 real beers just to start thinking about starting :)
 
#13 ·
Ah yes green. Sometimes I think I’m half color blind. By the looks of those pads I cant figure out if you are using way too much product or I am not using enough lol
I will say that I finally broke down and bought a corded Dewalt. Man what a difference compared to the HF I used for so many years. I mean they all do the trick but the torque was way consistent and the thing didn’t vibrate the hell out of me.
 
#16 ·
Im trying to figure out why you guys go balls to the wall with a rotary when you polish/wax every year. My .02c. The rotarys are for neglected boats. I smoove BG and WC with a 6” porter cable orbital every year and it turns out like glass. After todays work
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Blue hull and port sun :(
 
#21 ·
I am pondering which product and what polisher to use on the 506 this year. I bought the boat a year ago this month and it had been recently polished. I was so busy with modification and repair projects this year that all I did was wash her down, dreading a complete cut, buff and seal regimen. I am thinking of ordering the smoove system but am looking into buying a lighter weight buffer. I have an ancient classic Makita variable speed corded unit that I have used for years. I am intrigued by the Dewalt cordless unit but I am having a hard time imagining buffing a fifty one foot aft cabin hard top with a 5 inch pad.
Carpe Diem
 
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#22 ·
I'm running 9" pads on the Dewalt 20V I showed in the picture in my first post here. Works like a dream.

For a beast of a boat like yours you'll probably need at least 3 batteries (5AH each). I'm not sure you'd be able to charge one quickly enough to run a full side with just two batteries...
 
#23 ·
I'm going to have Mirror Image do mine this spring. Then I'm going to get some quotes for ceramic this summer. My brother in law did his 48 Cruisers (dark blue hull) 2 years ago. It was still looking good last fall after 2 summers.
 
#26 ·
I finally purchased a Shurhold Dual Action machine at the end of last season. Man, what a difference from HF (heavy) long body rotary machine. After washing the season of lake off I ran down both side from the waterline to rub rail in less than 2 hours. I used their black pad with 3M 1 Step. Shurhold is easy to operate (even one handed) nice and lite. I always make one run over the hull with a 1 Step type product prior shrink wrapping for the season.

I'm game for trying some new products this spring before I too outsource this agonizing task to the pros.
 
#27 ·
I ordered a Dewalt 20V Da polisher but am wondering if I should have just ordered the rotary instead. I also ordered the 3M two sided wool pads and the perfect it quick change arbor. I was thinking I could use it on the DA but the DA came with a stick-it pad for 6 inch polishing heads. Should I keep it and order a polisher for cutting and just use the DA for application of the wax/sealant? I am wondering also how well using 8 or 9 inch wool pads will work on the smaller polishing head backer. We started the polish project this weekend and are trying different combinations to see what will work on the 21 year old gelcoat carver used.
 
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#43 · (Edited)
Made some progress on mine today. Moved from the transom up the port side. Slow and steady...7 weeks to launch? ha.

Today I was actually most impressed with the results of the Smoove. I'm sure it's because my non-skid was neglected. So this result was pretty motivating. That said, it's still shocking to me how little ground I cover in 3 +/- hours of doing this.

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#54 ·
All the stuff I mentioned when I started this thread. I may switch to a different UV polymer wax for the topside, haven't decided yet. But Smoove compound and polish have been great to me so far. Seems a little easier to work with than Presta in my super novice opinion.
Just curious, did you move to different polymer wax for the topside? Or Procut, BG and then wax?
 
#55 ·
Made some progress on mine today. Moved from the transom up the port side. Slow and steady...7 weeks to launch? ha.

Today I was actually most impressed with the results of the Smoove. I'm sure it's because my non-skid was neglected. So this result was pretty motivating. That said, it's still shocking to me how little ground I cover in 3 +/- hours of doing this.

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Non- skid looks great. Results of using BG or Procut? What wax was used to finish off?
 
#61 ·
Those photos are pro-cut and bubble gum on the non-skid. So far I've skipped waxing the non-skid with that Ferecla above. The BG allegedly has a polymer wax included so wax isn't necessary, if I'm reading it correctly.

Everything is deadly slick to the socked feet right now. Part of me thinks I should leave the non-skid with just the BG finish, avoid any further increase in potential slippery-ness. But I also want it to stay looking like it does for as long as possible. Tough decisions...I'll probably wax it right before launch. I'm the only sucker up on the bow 90% of the time anyway :)
 
#58 ·
Well after 2 years of loving my dewalt I had to take it apart and clean the switch and connections. They were coated in white dust and were causing the motor to cut out at 1800RPM

I start polishing Thursday so we’ll see if that fixed it. Very annoying but hopefully it’s either fixed or will only need a new speed control knob
 
#60 ·
Starting on March 31??? Ohh man I think I started on December 31. ha. Of course I don't have exceptional new cabin flooring to enjoy :)

Funny you mention the dust. I brought a Dewalt electric blower with me to the boat yesterday for the first time. I used it on low to push the compounding dust over the edge as I was working. This was a huge help in keeping the mess down. Doing the topside I get piles and piles of compound dust, especially when doing the non-skid. It's a hot mess.