Brad - Saw the 358 at Cedar point - very nice - I thought that 2007 m/y show price was about $ 200k - it had my attention too! This was too much jump for me at that time. IMHO I believe list less 20% is the standard "serious" quote. Then push down from there. Once you push pricing as far as you think - go for extra warranty..... I'm sure you have all that in mind. Only other thing is with this market, $ 100/barrell oil deals may get even better. What about new 06's or 07's still around? I bought my '06 320DA new, never titiled, very well equipped for $154k - took some shopping - but found it. If you want specifics on my deal send me a PM. Good luck I'll be watching this thread to see others ideas too! Ray

 

Brad

Here are the listings for 2006/2007 340DA's on Boat Trader http://search.boattraderonline.com/search-results/Make-Sea%20Ray/Zip-29708/Radius-any/Year-2006,2007/Keywords-Sundancer/Length-34,34/Sort-PriceESC/Page-1,25/Searchid-55413/

Prices seem to average right around $200K for used models so you can also use that price as some indicator of what might be a "fair" price for a 2008 model or what type of depreciation you might experience on a new one.

Keep us posted, even if you pick a Four Winns.:grin:

 

Great choice either way...Both boats showed really well

 

...thinking of chiming in...thinking of chiming in...

 

I'll bet you are . I think I read your initial post on the ifourwinns site. Congrats on your new boat. I'd love if you'd contrast the two, pros and cons both ways and if you'd be willing, tell me what you paid for yours or what I should pay. Thanks

 

Brad - it's a comparison that many have done, and as a few of us have run down the pros and cons list between these two boats elsewhere on this forum, I'll spare everyone another recap and send you a PM with some specifics. The 340DA is obviously a terrific vessel and one of Sea Ray's most popular and enduring for a good reason. It's also being phased out for a reason which is no ill-reflection on what a fine boat it is. Hopefully, someone who has recent experience with an '08 340 purchase can give you some real-world numbers.

 

Thanks - I'm looking forward to the PM

 

The thing that bothers me about the four winns is that i don't know why you can not order the boat with 8.1 engines. The largest i/o configuration is 320 hp mercs or volvos the same as the smaller 338 vista.With 200 gallons of fuel, water, a couple of people and gear i can't see that boat moving too well. I love the layout of the cockpit since it has a jump seat to port rather then a fixed chair and it also has a walk thru windshield. In the cabin the seperate show caught my attention more then anything else.

 

SR dealer at the AUS BS said he had one at the dealership...that will be their last one...he expects to receive his 1st 350 late this spring.

 

Brad,

I'm in the same boat (pun intended) you are. Don't know what a good price is for the 2008 340. Does 20~22% off MSRP seem reasonable? MM doesn't think so and are saying the new digital engine controls make the 2008 340 so much more valuable...I don't think it's that much of a big deal. And with the upcomming 350 they should bend even more IMO. Anyone that been or going to a boat show or someone that has a 2008 340 please help Brad and me out on % off MSRP or actual purchase prices. We really need a good baseline on the 2008 340. I'm also looking at the Regal eqv 3760 any feedback on this boat, any pricing info?

Thanks for the help,

Soon to be a bigger boat owner!

Mike

 

22% off is not enough. Compare what you can get an 05 or 06 340 for, and justify the 100's of $1,000's (at least one).

 

We check out every boat in the 340 range including the Regal 3760. We loved the Regal layout until we got to the front berth. It is tiny, barely enough room for one person. We crossed it of the list before any serious checking.

 

jrcinnh, So...what did you end up getting? The Four winns 348? Need to fess up and put it in your signature. Congratulations, Brian

 

I thought the birth on the 3760 is a queen according to regal?

 

And not nearly as painful!

 

Have you made a serious offer yet? Theres no way to tell what a good price is until you make a firm offer with a deposit check. FWIW, I built and priced a 340 that I would like if I were to order one, came out to 373K almost :wow: I would start at a 30% off offer myself which would be about 261K. The 20% your hearing is only 298K, not enough IMO. By the time youve added a few things like elecs, lines and a few others youd like, your way over 300K. Seems like way too much for a boat that will be worth about 150 in 2-3 short years. Before I bought my used 260, I looked at plenty of new 280's. I priced them from 4 different dealers and this one was by far the cheapest from the get-go without even trying to negotiate. www.hutchinsonsboatworks.com Even though they are 1500 miles from you, it can't hurt to compare their prices. Over the years, they have consistently had better prices by far from other dealers I've been to. Somewhere in my office I still have a sales flyer from them from 03 or 04 for a twin deisel 290 AJ that was nicely equipped at 129K, new. I wanted it something bad but the money wasn't right at the time :smt089 If your serious about buying, try an offer, I'm sure you will get better than 20-22% if your serious about it. SB

 

Late spring of boat not in production ??? Dont yea think it would have been at a boat show if there was a replacement ??

Rob

 

I think the 350 will show up at the end of our summer here in NY like the 330 did last year which is September. It will be shown at the first boat shows in the fall in the Northeast which is the Norwalk in water boat show. Early spring is much too soon. It will be an 09 model year.

 

FWIW, theres a guy at our marina who bought a leftover 2006 340 last summer (~june 07). I think it was in the $220s when he got it brand new. He barely used it and has now bought an even bigger searay and the 340 is listed for $199K. I think it has <50hrs, and its loaded with every option I can think of -- black hull, all 3 TVs, the raymarine package, and teak cockpit floors. Gorgeous boat, its really brand new IMHO. And there are lots of those deals out there, I can't see spending $300K for an '08 that once its in the water is identical.

I don't think I could buy a new one and take the depreciation hit, but I think if I were shooting for an '08, I would try for close to $250K for a pretty nicely equipped boat. Folks here are correct, if you pay $300K, in 2 years it will be worth <$200K, especially when its about to be replaced and the searay dealers will no longer have them on the lots at MSRP.

Also, if you put the usual 20% down on it at $290-300K, you'll owe ~$230K on it in 2 years and it'll be worth $180-200K. Not a good situation.

Also, walk in there with a cashiers check for your downpayment, ask for an offer contract, write in the number you want, and attach the check. Tell them you're going to lunch and will be back in an hour for their answer. Dealers won't get serious unless they see a check in front of them and they know you are serious.

-Dave
'07 Sea Hunt 220
'04 Sea Ray 280DA
Previous: '04 320DA, '00 Donzi Z275

 

The boat has to be atleast a year away... Like NEXT spring. Mostly likey will have the 34 and 35 selling at the same time which isnt uncommon. The dealer that didnt order any well.. thats just silly... Its a great boat .

Rob

 

Guys - just wanted to update on my decision. We ended up buying the Four Winns 358V. With all due respect to any 340 owners or general Sea Ray loyalists (of which I was one), the 358V was a no-brainer. We ordered the boat for April delivery with Volvo 320HP V-drives, DTS throttle controls (standard), an additional TV for the mid-cabin, a cockpit TV and an upgrade to the E-series Raymarine electronics. Paid $205K.

I hope this pricing information helps anyone else looking at making the same comparison.

By way of comparison, MM had the show price on their 340DA at about $275K if I remember correctly and the show price on the Regal 3760 was $269K.

I'm sure there was room in both of those numbers to move but I highly doubt to anywhere close to the price we got on what was (to us at least) a much better choice.

 

Nice buy Brad. I recall reading a review of the Four Winns in a recent boating magazine. I was impressed. Best luck to you.

 

Congrats on the new boat Brad.

 

Congrats.... onthe purchase.


I was wrong about the new 35. ITs in production.... Rumble seat and the walk tru windshield. We're doomed.... Oh and HARD TOP TOO

Rob

 

Congrats.

It seems to be a current strategy for certain dealers to act like its a sellers market. I suppose some think it is better to make $40K on four boats than to pay finance charges on four boat. While others think it is better to make $150K on one boat while paying finance charges on three.

 

the 330 weighs close to 16k pounds. What is the 350 going to weigh with a hard top? Close to 18,000 lbs?

 

Comsnark,

You must be referring to MM!!

Mike