Yellow stains on bow deck gelcoat

This looks promising as several have said it is a mold release problem. Mold release is what is sprayed in the hull mold before the gelcoat - hull is made so it releases from the mold easily without pulling off gelcoat.

https://captainjohnsboatbrite.com/B...in_page=product_info&cPath=76&products_id=186

MARINE/MOLD RELEASE WAX REMOVER

Instructions for Use...​

This product was developed for David Marlow, Chairman of Marlow Yachts, to reduce the VOC emissions and the employee exposure of the MEK-based solvents used to remove the multiple coats of mold release wax from the new boat hulls, decks and other molded parts. The results from the first run sample were excellent. The product report from Marlow Yachts has the stripper outperforming the harsh chemicals, giving nearly twice the square footage coverage and for less money. Certainly a triple win!

The Marine and Mold Release Wax Stripper is non-toxic. ALSO, it is thixotropic and trigger sprayable. The product will not drip down when sprayed onto the vertical surfaces of the boats allowing for a very visible and managed removal of the wax.

This Marine and Mold-Release Wax Stripper is an excellent product for the boat paint shops. For proper adhesion of new paint, all wax must be removed from not only the surface but also deep in the pores of gelcoat.

In the same boat repair arena, several prominent detailing organizations have found that by applying the Marine Wax Stripper before compounding a boat, “swirls” were eliminated. Swirls are the result of old, embedded into the gelcoat wax that when softened from the heat of the high speed buffing pad smears across the surface. The detailers have stated the finished surface is superior and is done much quicker by eliminating the “swirl chase”.

Application

Shake Product Well

Spray onto surface

Agitate lightly with a scrubee pad getting the stripper into the porous surface to soften the embedded wax. Let sit for a few minutes.

Remove stripper and softened wax with terry cloth towel. Also, a pressure washer can be used to remove the softened wax.



I may try a few of these in small areas... I'll post the results.
 
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I got this from Boatbright products - Captain John:

"Hi Don,

I have seen this problem on many boats (and 100ft+yachts). The removal of the hull or other molded parts from a mold that is lathered up with wax (10 -15 coats) must be cleaned thoroughly of this wax. Most often Toluene, Xylene, or MEK are used. These are nasty chemicals and evaporate fast. Sometimes due to this, the person doing the job leaves some of the wax residue on the hull. This I believe is your yellowish discoloration.

I have a good contact at Sea Ray and am awaiting his response regarding this problem.


Captain John
585-943-6111
www.boatbrite.com "

I've got a sample coming of his Marine and Mold Release Wax Stripper product to test it out. I'll keep you updated... :grin:
 
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I called SR Customer Service again today. 6 weeks ago I called to see if they would do anything to correct the problem through their Customer Goodwill Program. They took my info and I sent pictures but had no reply. Todays call was one to check the status and unfortunately they acted as if I never called before. I have restated my issue and hopefully Jerry at CS will respond soon.
 
Well I just received a reply from Jerry at Customer Service and they are going to fix the yellowing issue for my non-skid. Way to go SeaRay!
 
At Ease said:
Well I just received a reply from Jerry at Customer Service and they are going to fix the yellowing issue for my non-skid. Way to go SeaRay!
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Great news! :grin:

What's Jerry's number so I can call him and discuss my problem?
 
Sea Ray denied us any help at all stating: "I am sorry to hear that the boat you purchased has this issue. This particular boat is past it's warranty period and was purchased by you while out of it's warranty period.

Let me assure you that Sea Ray does care about you as a consumer, and is legitimately interested in assisting our boat owners whenever possible. However due to the fact that you did not purchase this boat new or within the warranty period there is nothing that we can do in this instance. Sea Ray respectfully declines assistance."

What a load of crap! :smt013 Sea Ray should have fixed this problem knowing full well that it was their manufacturing problem. Makes me want to look elsewhere for my next boat.... :smt013
 
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Big Kudos to Marine Max!! Here is the latest and greatest update....We contacted the General Mgr of Marine Max per the suggestion of a Service Tech from MM who was out at our docks working on another boat who took the time to come over and look at our problem. We contact the General Manager at MM and he contacted SeaRay who agreed to get our top deck buffed out and repaired!! SeaRay is sending out instructions and the correct compounds (hmmmm they have specific instructions...think they know there is a problem??!!) and MM will schedule the repair.

We will update y'all on how spiffy our boat looks after they are all done!
Dana & Don
 
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Good Luck Don Hope it turns out ok. I wonder if compound works without wet sanding it.. We will see.

John
 
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dsteele1 said:
Big Kudos to Marine Max!! Here is the latest and greatest update....We contacted the General Mgr of Marine Max per the suggestion of a Service Tech from MM who was out at our docks working on another boat who took the time to come over and look at our problem. We contact the General Manager at MM and he contacted SeaRay who agreed to get our top deck buffed out and repaired!! SeaRay is sending out instructions and the correct compounds (hmmmm they have specific instructions...think they know there is a problem??!!) and MM will schedule the repair.

We will update y'all on how spiffy our boat looks after they are all done! We have said it before & continue to say Marine Max of Lewisville is one Class Act!!
Dana & Don
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I am very glad that they stepped up! The first time I was turned down I knew that my next boat would not be a SeaRay. Then they finally stepped up, and I will likely upgrade to a larger SeaRay in the next year or so.
 
Thanks, we are really happy too! Did they already fix your boat? Do you know what the process was they used? How long did it take?
 
dsteele1 said:
Thanks, we are really happy too! Did they already fix your boat? Do you know what the process was they used? How long did it take?
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Not yet, the local dealer just received the authorization last week. We now have to schedule what week we want to give up the boat. The weather is great right now so I think we will wait until after Labor Day.
 
I have a couple of these yellowing spots on my 185...nice to hear I'm not the only one with this problem. I may call my dealer to see what they can do about it.

On another note, the yellowing that happens at the water line can easily be removed with a product called "Rust Out". Spray it on, wait 30 seconds and rinse off...works great. I tried it on the yellow spots discussed above but it didn't work.
 
Final update......After many months our boat is done and looks all spiffy! Sea Rays "special instructions & special compounds" frustrated the heck out of the detail guy and ... Basically did nothing! So we contacted the General Mgr at MM again, who was surprise that our boat wasn't fixed yet. He had their service dept send out their expert fiberglass tech, guy worked on it for 2 days and about 99% of the yellowing is gone! You can see just a bit on the non-slip surface, but it really looks great! Like new & like it should for a 2 yr old boat. Shame on Sea Ray for not stepping up and fixing a problem they should have, and kudos to MM for taking over!!
 
Don good to hear, I was wondering if the SeaRay compound was going to take it out.


So how did he remove it?

John
 
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We never got a chance to see it as our boat is an hour away. One of those "Now it's here and now it's gone" problems... :grin: they did some sort of buffing wheel compounding then polishing then waxing routines from what they said. :thumbsup:
 
dsteele1 said:
We never got a chance to see it as our boat is an hour away. One of those "Now it's here and now it's gone" problems... :grin: they did some sort of buffing wheel compounding then polishing then waxing routines from what they said. :thumbsup:
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Do you know what compounds they used? I have a little yellowing around one of the overboard sink drains I'd like to get out.
 
Todd, I emailed Marine Max to ask them what the process was and what they used, when they answer I will let you know what they say!
 
I really still wonder if they had to wetsand it out. I was told this is the only way then you have to compound the finish.

But we will see.

Thanks Don
 
Nehalennia said:
Do you know what compounds they used? I have a little yellowing around one of the overboard sink drains I'd like to get out.
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I've used Soft & Srub as prescribed by other CSR users. I had some stains on the fore deck in the non-skid that I couldn't get out with the usual cleaners. S&S worked well with a little elbow grease and I followed with Woody Wax.

Mike
 
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