Woody Wax ?

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  1. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I compounded, polished and waxed the entire boat in storage this winter except for the fore deck. My fore deck is mostly non-skid and when it came out of storage I washed it down and followed Woodys instructions to apply the wax. Since then it rained a lot and I started seeing a few tiny black spots... Today I am going to have to deal with a lot of black mold spots. I can strip the deck and get rid of them that's not a problem ...But I am done with Woody's..... Is there something else out there that you guys are using ....or just stick with typical compound, polish and regular wax?
     
  2. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

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    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    That's what I do. FYI for the wax I use Collinite Isolator Wax - it seems to last longer.
     
  3. Chris-380

    Chris-380 Active Member

    384
    Jan 20, 2019
    Pontoon Beach IL
    380 Sundancer 2000
    454 Horizon w/V drives
    I use woodys on my swim platform (nonskid), never had that issue. I have used it the past 3 summers
    I haven’t used it on my foredeck, but I do end up with black spots that I have to scrub off
     
  4. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    That’s what I use on my hull. It’s great stuff, but I don’t know if I would use it on the nonskid surfaces.
    Do you find it slippery to walk on?
     
  5. TNT8808

    TNT8808 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    466
    May 25, 2016
    West Michigan
    2008 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Avon Seasport 340
    40 HP Yamaha
    I use Collinite 845 on my entire boat, and don't get any of the dreaded black mold spots. We have not found it to be overly slippery and often times are barefoot on the swim platform. We do however normally wear boat shoes when walking about, or washing the bow.

    -Tom
     
  6. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I always used it on the swim platform as well and never had a black spot issue there either.
    I think I am going back to buffing and waxing... I am always skeptical of anything that you just spray on and hose off.
     
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  7. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    Not to put too fine of point on this, and maybe you did do this, but Woodys spray is used with Woodys Ultra Pine boat soap after the boat is washed. It is sprayed on and brushed around the surface and then allowed to dry. Many folks do a great job of detailing in the spring and then wash the wax off with a boat soap that strips wax. Woodys Ultra Pine has wax in it. The spray wax supplements that treatment. Your results may vary. I found it to work as advertised, and one detailing in April looked as good in October as it did in the spring.
     
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  8. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I wet the deck, spray it on a soft brush...apply wax with brush...Let dry and rinse...let that dry and buff with terry cloth...just like the directions state. (after you write it out...it sounds like a lot of work for a spray on hose off) I don't use Ultra Pine I use another high quality soap with wax. If I have to use Ultra Pine to make this stuff work than for sure I am out. Tiara must have something special going on because there is no way one application of "Apply and Hose off" would last a Sea Ray all summer.... mine anyway
     
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  9. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    IMG_4230.JPG These pix were taken in October after a full season of boating. Hull was polished with Finesse it in April and then waxed with Flagship. Used a wool pad for both steps. After that, Ultra Pine boat weekly washes and a spray of the deck with Woodys once a month after the routine wash job. A SR should do as well if the initial detailing wax does not get washed off with the wrong soap. Many of the stains from birds washed right off with no scrubbing. Occasionally I would resort to a small stiff brush to get some spots off, but that was rare. The hardtop was more prone to black spots, but they came off with the wash brush. My first experiences were similar to yours, but I learned that it is the weekly wash and combination of the products routine that makes the difference.

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  10. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    That’s good to know Tom. I’m a fan of Collinite products on the boat, been using them for several years now, but was always skeptical about putting it on nonskid. I’m going to pick an area up on the bow to test it on.
    BTW: I bought a bottle of their 850 metal wax this year and so far I really like it.
     
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  11. TNT8808

    TNT8808 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    May 25, 2016
    West Michigan
    2008 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Avon Seasport 340
    40 HP Yamaha
    Hey John. I think you'll like it on the non skid. We just returned from a 9 day trip, and everyone kept asking if we'd just waxed it and kept I telling them "yeah, in January." We use the Meguiars Wash & Wax every week for maintenance. I'm not familiar with the Collinite 850 metal wax. Does it have a cleaner in it also?
     
  12. M Prod

    M Prod Well-Known Member

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    Oct 6, 2017
    North Vancouver, BC
    2005 Sundancer 340
    Aquapro Dinghy w/ Honda 8hp
    Kohler 5KW Genny
    Raymarine Electronics
    8.1 Horizons /V Drives
    Hmm ...maybe compound and buff your non skid first? Otherwise the wax will just seep into the oxidized gelcoat and not really provide any protection. I use Meguiars Ultimate paste wax on the non skid and do spray applications of the same every few weeks during the summer. Looks great and I've never had an issue with slipping. It rains a lot here as you know ...holds up well over the winter.

    And it looks great:

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  13. Blueone

    Blueone Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 24, 2007
    Lake Erie, Ohio
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    Hey!!! .... there is no oxidization on my boat :)
    Last fall the deck was compounded polished and woody waxed.... spring woody waxed again. Here we are 2 months later with black mold specs.
    So if the idea is you need a coat of wax before Woody .... then to me woody is a waste. I would sooner wax twice a summer.
     
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  14. M Prod

    M Prod Well-Known Member

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    Oct 6, 2017
    North Vancouver, BC
    2005 Sundancer 340
    Aquapro Dinghy w/ Honda 8hp
    Kohler 5KW Genny
    Raymarine Electronics
    8.1 Horizons /V Drives
    Of course, of course ...my mistake. Didn't mean to offend! :p
     
  15. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

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    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    Nope - but we use boat shoes as well.
     
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  16. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

    778
    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    I used Woody Wax several years ago but gave up on it.
     
  17. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    I use a wash and wax product for regular washes during the season too.
    But when the nonskid needs a good scrub I use Barkeepers Friend and then reapply Woody Wax as per the directions.
    Like Blueone, I get some blacks specs after a few weeks, or some really heavy rains, and have to redo it.
    Next time I scrub the nonskid I’m going to give the Collinite Insulator Wax a try. I’ve found that a few coats of it below the rubrails in Spring on a properly prepped surface holds up better through the season than anything else I’ve tried over the years. It would be nice if it did the same on the nonskid.
    I don’t use Woody Wax on the swim platform because I scrub it way more often than any other nonskid. Usually once or twice a week. For the platform I just use Starbrite Non Skid Deck Cleaner to both clean and protect.
    Yes, their 850 has a cleaner in it and it leaves a protectant coating on the stainless.
    I removed my canvas last week for a deeper cleaning and re-waterproofing and while it was all off I used the 850 on the windshield frame and framework for the canvas. It was really easy to use and did a great job.
    My old back really appreciated it when doing the lower portions of the inside of the windshield.
    If the heat and humidity ever breaks around here I’m going to do the rails next.
     
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  18. TNT8808

    TNT8808 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    May 25, 2016
    West Michigan
    2008 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Avon Seasport 340
    40 HP Yamaha
    You've convinced me John. I'm gonna order some 850, and give it a shot! BTW...I haven't had any black specs since I started waxing the non skid with 845 3 years ago. I hope it works the same for you.

    -Tom
     
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  19. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    To clarify my post on this subject, I did wax the nonskid with Flagship or Collinite in the spring time. The soap and spray wax routine followed that initial detailing. Sounds like some of you who have tried the Woody spray and gave up on it, used it on unpolished and unwanted nonskid. If so, your results do make sense to me. You need to start with a well prepared surface to achieve the advertised results.
     
  20. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

    778
    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    One thing you have to keep in mind is location and the stuff spewing out of smoke stacks. Years ago I kept my boat downwind of a coal fired power plant - there's no way I could keep my boat clean regardless of how I cleaned and polished it.
     

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