paulswagelock
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I guess it is exactly what they wanted - us talking and speculating........
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It appears you have answered my question to Frank. Thanks Playdate!I spent at least half my career trying to keep companies from making deadly business mistakes. Sometimes the job was to pull them back from bankruptcy.....in other's it was to liquidate their assets. Every US company faces this and the common thread as to what happens next is who is going to lead the company?
I don't know went wrong at Brunswick but I'll speculate that a number of US companies including GE are in the same bind. The common issues are always the same:
-Innovation stops
-Creative accounting begins
-Failed attempts to buy innovation
-Ignoring new entrants and competitors.
-Outsourcing your Sales to a company you do not control.
Each step moved the great business Sea Ray had away from a path it owned and dominated for decades.
Trying to reclaim the stage it once had isn't really possible with the Brunswick management team. At best, they can force Sea Ray to imitate others that their "focus groups" and consultants think are relevant. That's how you end up with the Venture and now this version which appears to more of a lake boat than something you want to bring in any inlet on the East Coast.
Hopefully they will sell a few of them but I wouldn't count on it especially if Marine Max is the Sales channel.
Again, I believe we all want to see Sea Ray pull through this but copying other manufacturers and selling your product through a channel that includes those manufacturers you copied isn't much of a turnaround strategy.
I like the formula boats, but not the ridiculous speeds they attain. Haven’t checked, but I’d be curious if you can customize build with twins instead of quads so your top speed is 30 and not 50+. And I definitely agree, run the windshield up and add vents to let air pass through weather permitting. No isinglass, or at least minimize it.If this is there final design I think Sea Ray May have missed the mark. Just one quick observation they should have run the windshield up to the hard top. Formula has there 430 & 400 crossover and they are selling like hot cakes.
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Looks like the 400 SLX OB - 320 Dancer OB to me.
:https://www.searay.com/page.aspx/pageid/160944/pmid/367730/SLX-400-OB.aspx
:https://www.searay.com/page.aspx/pageid/160944/pmid/367731/Sundancer-320-OB.aspx
Compare closely.
...The hydraulically folding side platform was very cool and really expanded the deck space...
Best of both worlds?That is if you like to boat alone, once your in a raft up with other boaters that cool feature is useless. Just my opinion - one more for the just because you can doesn't mean you should.
-Kevin
Yes, I totally agree about the rafting up. If you often raft with several other boats, it's not much use. I probably thought it was cool because I only ever raft up with 1 other boat and could take advantage of the function. I got the guy to demo it for me and the operation was quite slick.That is if you like to boat alone, once your in a raft up with other boaters that cool feature is useless. Just my opinion - one more for the just because you can doesn't mean you should.
-Kevin
Yep, now what? Is this thinking out of the box?I guess it is exactly what they wanted - us talking and speculating........
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Yep, now what? Is this thinking out of the box?
Cool, a foot rest!
Did you get another email with this pic? I didn’t receive one yet.View attachment 64466
Yep, now what? Is this thinking out of the box?
Yes, check your Spam folder. That's where mine was.Did you get another email with this pic? I didn’t receive one yet.