What is the pitch of your Salon?

brimanst

brimanst

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Dec 20, 2006
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Mt. Pleasant, SC
Boat Info
1998 Sedan Bridge 480DB
Engines
Twin CAT 3196's 660HP
I am hoping that other 480DB owners and other similar boats will help me out. I seem to have a significant pitch to the boat that is very noticable in the Salon. It is hard to cook sunny side up eggs since they all bunch up to one side of the pan. It does not seem to matter if I have the dink on or off. I had a brief period of time without my spare props on board and it still does not matter. I am trying to figure out how to level the playing field (so to speak) on the boat.

On a possibly related problem I have to trim all the way down all the time to keep the swim platform out of the water. I am thinking of shimming the platform up higher, but I am starting to think I have a bigger problem. Any insight will be appreciated.

briman
 
I was going to ask "Are you trying to cook eggs while underway?" but someone already beat me to a funny response.

My stove has a slight lean to the stern but I've never tried to cook sunny side up eggs. As far as the trimming down and swim platform, I do not have that problem. I rarely use my trim tabs as the boat rides pretty flat and can stay on plane all the way down to 12 knots... and the platform does not dig in... I also have the bigger platform with the lift.

Where do your exhaust ports lay relative to your waterline? Are they completely underwater?
 
You know - I never have thought about it - but we cook breakfast all the time and never really think about the eggs running down hill. So our stove must be pretty level.

I will say that the v-berth up front slopes down to the aft enough that it annoys me. I feel like I'm sliding out of bed every few hours.

As far as plane...I've got a DA so it might be different...but this is the flattest riding boat I've ever been on at all speeds.
 
You guys sure are getting a lot of action in the salon....
 
To answer a few questions: No, I never try to make scrambled eggs, they just turn up that way, and I only let the cheasy 70's music (and the DVD's they come on) in the staterooms.

I do have the extended swim platform with the hydrolic lift (TnT). The top of my exhaust ports are about 1 inch above the water; the bottom of my swim platform is about 3" off the water at rest, and the top of the swim plat is roughly even with the stern rub rail. All of these measurements were taken with the dink off the platform, but my fat a$$ (240) on the platform. Thanks for the info.
 
Here is a picture of the backend of my boat at rest with a 750 pound dinghy on it. My platform is a lot higher than 3 inches off the water... Your description of the exhaust ports is just like mine. Is your swim platform lower than this?

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That picture certainly helps. Your swim plat bottom edge is at the sterm rub rail, whereas the TOP of my swim plat is at the rub rail. I have been toying with the idea of shimming the platform up, I just need to ensure it will go low enough in the water to get the dink off. I wonder if this is one of those items that they "improved" with the later models. I have an e-mail to SR on this.

I also noticed your genny exhaust port. Mine is integrated to the top of the port exhaust port. Not sure what it means, just an observation.

briman
 
My lift is by GHS/Florida Bow Thruster whereas yours may be by TNT... Just an FYI.

My genny exhaust port is the same as yours. That hole with water coming out is the common drain for the AC raw water and all the other sinks/drains in the boat. Have I mentioned having the kitchen sink drain into a sump and then being pumped out the ass end of the boat is a BAD DESIGN?!!
 
Aaaaw, yes. I gues I have one up on you. My sink drains directly overboard. I just have to keep toms of conditioner out of the shower drain. If you ever saw me, you would know it isn't mine. I do have a TnT lift, and I just noticed my hawspipe for the glendining is also right above the rub rail. I will just have to keep wokring it. Thanks again for your support and immediate replies.

briman
 
I thought this was going to be ads for hair salons? You know, you grow 'em, we mow 'em??

From your description are we talking fore and aft pitch or starboard vs. port? I can't tell, but I have a similar problem in the 300 DA. Everything slopes back. Someone suggested about 300 pounds of chain in the anchor locker ought to cure it! That and having me move all the way forward while we're cooking?
 
Brian- Gary's picture is an accurate reflection of my boat as well. I carry the same tender and my boat sits at a similar level..... which is to say that when I'm fat with fuel, water, gear, and tender, my main exhausts are just covered with water and the bubbles splash water EVERYWHERE when idling/docking. Anyone helping with the aft lines really love it.

I've noticed the incline in the salon as well, but, since I don't cook eggs, it's never really presented a problem. However, I do think I sleep better in the master stateroom than in the VIP because I'm in a head up position rather than down.

How are the Bahamas?
 
I did not know there were so many egg haters out there. I only used it as an example to indicate that I don't think it is a great design to have a sloping cooking surface at rest. I think my biggest complaint, is that I put a nice big flat screen tv with a great surround sound (DD 5.1) in the salon, and when I lay in the couch, my head is significantly lower than my feet. The other complaint, is that I am not getting the mileage I want, and in rough seas (yes, I've had plenty lately), my dink get a lot of water which just compunds the problem.

Matt, Do you have a TnT lift as well?

The Bahamas are nice. I have been out here for 2 months so far, and since I have determined to keep this boat for at least 5 years, I spend all day trying to figure out what I can fix, and what is not worth it (it will be a 13yr old boat when I go to sell it). I spent the first month just fixing things on the boat that broke on the trip. Now it is time to start making improvements.

FYI - The Exumas are A LOT warmer and calmer than the Abacos this time of year! It's a little chilly up here ;-)
 
Can you post a picture of exactly what it looks like? It's hard to tell if it's a ballast problem or your swim platform design/mounting has something to do with it.

Doug
 
For comparison, this is an '01 fitted with the standard fixed platform. (avert your eyes from the hideous camper)

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Note how much higher she sits without all that weight hanging off the transom - the exhaust is barely halfway submerged.
 
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