Jambrin
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2002 340 Sundancer w/Westerbeke 4.5 BCGB <-- ~1200 hours.
Generator runs normally (as it has done the last 7 years that I've owned it) and then suddenly just shuts down. It will run 4, 5, 6 hours at a time, then die and won't restart. The next weekend I come down to the boat it does the same thing again...day 1 runs 4 hours no problem. Day 2 it runs 6 hours and then suddenly dies and won't restart (usually in the middle of the night like 2am). When it dies/shuts down it doesn't sputter or anything, it's like someone hit the run switch and turned it off.
This has happened 3 times so far this season, and when you try to restart it will start and run for about 5 seconds and then immediately shut down again but it will only do this 1 time per weekend. For instance, it will die, I will try to restart, crank several times, no firing no nothing. Then wait 2 hours. Try again, nothing, wait 5 minutes, try again, nothing, wait 5 minutes, try again, fires right up and runs for 5 seconds and shuts down, try again, nothing, wait 5 minutes, try again, nothing, wait until next day, try again, nothing, wait until next weekend, tray again fires right up and runs 4 hours. You kinda get the picture.
What I have done so far to troubleshoot:
My only guess at this point is maybe the fuel cut-off solenoid is intermittent. Obviously something is intermittent causing this to happen, I just can't figure out what it is.
If you've hung on and read this entire thread, I'd appreciate if you have any educated guesses as to what could be causing the trouble, or if you have any idea of the typical things that fail on a 18 yo ~1200 hr 4.5 BCGB 3-cyl Mitsubishi engine that maybe I haven't checked yet.
Thanks,
Brian
Generator runs normally (as it has done the last 7 years that I've owned it) and then suddenly just shuts down. It will run 4, 5, 6 hours at a time, then die and won't restart. The next weekend I come down to the boat it does the same thing again...day 1 runs 4 hours no problem. Day 2 it runs 6 hours and then suddenly dies and won't restart (usually in the middle of the night like 2am). When it dies/shuts down it doesn't sputter or anything, it's like someone hit the run switch and turned it off.
This has happened 3 times so far this season, and when you try to restart it will start and run for about 5 seconds and then immediately shut down again but it will only do this 1 time per weekend. For instance, it will die, I will try to restart, crank several times, no firing no nothing. Then wait 2 hours. Try again, nothing, wait 5 minutes, try again, nothing, wait 5 minutes, try again, fires right up and runs for 5 seconds and shuts down, try again, nothing, wait 5 minutes, try again, nothing, wait until next day, try again, nothing, wait until next weekend, tray again fires right up and runs 4 hours. You kinda get the picture.
What I have done so far to troubleshoot:
- In June replaced cap & rotor (for the 1st time ever) and spark plugs because it died and wouldn't restart for the first time and when I spark tested I found 1 of the 3 cylinders was not getting spark. The contacts in the cap looked pretty worn and a little bit corroded so it was not surprising. This fixed the issue. It then ran fine for about a month or 50 hours total.
- New ignition coil in July. When replacing cap & rotor & plugs I noticed the spark looked a little weak on my spark tester so I figured this should probably be replaced once it started acting up again. I did not use the Westerbeke OEM part for $430 but instead used a very similar Delphi GN10170 general purpose coil from Amazon for $20. Works fine but seems it did not fix the issue.
- Checked the carb fuel filter and found to be in good condition. I had replaced this just last season (2019) with the OEM WB part so I expected it to be good.
- Disconnected the fuel line into the carb and hit the ON/preheat switch. The fuel pump is pumping plenty of fuel out of the line.
- Measured battery voltage to the fuel cut-off solenoid as good when cranking. Removed the solenoid and tested with wires to B+ and GND, the solenoid actuated. Cleaned it with carb cleaner.
- Plugged the hole where the fuel cut-off solenoid goes and the generator started and ran although very rich (understandably). I thought wow maybe it's bad but when I put it back in the generator also started and ran several hours making me think the fuel cut-off solenoid is OK. Also the local WB service shop near Lake Cumberland (Unlimited Marine) told me they have never encountered a bad/failed fuel cut-off solenoid and therefore don't stock that part.
- Tested the K1 and K2 relays. They actuated and the coil resistance is in range (86 Ohms for one and 87 Ohms for the other), so these should be good.
- Checked oil level and found to be OK.
- Raw water pump impeller is OK (new last season, pumps water just fine when the generator is running).
My only guess at this point is maybe the fuel cut-off solenoid is intermittent. Obviously something is intermittent causing this to happen, I just can't figure out what it is.
If you've hung on and read this entire thread, I'd appreciate if you have any educated guesses as to what could be causing the trouble, or if you have any idea of the typical things that fail on a 18 yo ~1200 hr 4.5 BCGB 3-cyl Mitsubishi engine that maybe I haven't checked yet.
Thanks,
Brian