VesselView: Engine Mis-fire Won't Quit

FastMarkA

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Jul 12, 2010
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Chicago
Boat Info
2015 Sunseeker Portofino 40
Engines
Volvo Penta D6-330
My 2011 350 MAGs love to kick out the dreaded VesselView error code: Engine Mis-Fire. This is a code that can only be reset with the highly coveted MerCruiser tech software.

This started at the beginning of the season (May 1). The boat had 95 hours on it when I took possession, and the first error code spit out around 100 hours.

I had a tech reset the alarm to see if it'd happen again. After probably 10-15 hours, it resurfaced. Within an hour of the other, both engines were now allegedly mis-firing, but their performance was fine.

So again, I invited the mechanic to check things out. No additional data was gained when the laptop was plugged into the OBD. One more time, we reset the code because from all indications, the engines were running beautifully...idle was nice, and WOT 5200 RPM got around 53mph.

After about a month, mis-fire codes for both resurfaced. So I had a tune-up done, and indeed the caps were a little ugly after 3 years (fresh water only). So new plugs, new caps, new rotors, oil changes, oil filter changes, fuel filter changes, and impeller replacements. Wires were not changed since they looked to be in great shape, per the mechanic.

In doing this work, it was observed that the plastic tab to which the distributor cap screws into was broken, so distributors were replaced on both engines.

About 2 weeks after the work, poof...mis-fire codes again for both engines. But they're running even nicer than they were before...5200 RPM happens with no problems.

I've done some research, and I'm seeing a lot about the oxygen sensors and how a faulty one of those can cause the engine to mis-fire. With the tune-up work done, and both engines performing beautifully, I really am starting to think this is a sensor failure issue and that the engines are just fine?

Curious if anybody has had a similar experience and, if so, how it was remedied. All I want is to have a green "OK" dot on the top left of my VesselView.

TIA!
 
On a Car the Crankshaft position sensor is what detects a misfire and relays this info to the ECM.
I would assume the same on a marine engine.
 
On a Car the Crankshaft position sensor is what detects a misfire and relays this info to the ECM.
I would assume the same on a marine engine.

Seems like a safe assumption -- most of all the "marinizing" done to an engine tends to just accommodate the wetter, damp environment and reduce explosion/fire hazards.
 
FastMarkA - I have the same problem with my 2011 377 MAG engines. Did you ever find the reason for the Misfire Alarm?
 
My 2011 350 MAGs love to kick out the dreaded VesselView error code: Engine Mis-Fire. This is a code that can only be reset with the highly coveted MerCruiser tech software.

This started at the beginning of the season (May 1). The boat had 95 hours on it when I took possession, and the first error code spit out around 100 hours.

I had a tech reset the alarm to see if it'd happen again. After probably 10-15 hours, it resurfaced. Within an hour of the other, both engines were now allegedly mis-firing, but their performance was fine.

So again, I invited the mechanic to check things out. No additional data was gained when the laptop was plugged into the OBD. One more time, we reset the code because from all indications, the engines were running beautifully...idle was nice, and WOT 5200 RPM got around 53mph.

After about a month, mis-fire codes for both resurfaced. So I had a tune-up done, and indeed the caps were a little ugly after 3 years (fresh water only). So new plugs, new caps, new rotors, oil changes, oil filter changes, fuel filter changes, and impeller replacements. Wires were not changed since they looked to be in great shape, per the mechanic.

In doing this work, it was observed that the plastic tab to which the distributor cap screws into was broken, so distributors were replaced on both engines.

About 2 weeks after the work, poof...mis-fire codes again for both engines. But they're running even nicer than they were before...5200 RPM happens with no problems.

I've done some research, and I'm seeing a lot about the oxygen sensors and how a faulty one of those can cause the engine to mis-fire. With the tune-up work done, and both engines performing beautifully, I really am starting to think this is a sensor failure issue and that the engines are just fine?

Curious if anybody has had a similar experience and, if so, how it was remedied. All I want is to have a green "OK" dot on the top left of my VesselView.

TIA!
Might want your dealer to contact Merc - with some of the earlier catalyzed 350 Mags they had this issue due to running parameters being set to tight on the ECM programming to prevent backfiring in the catalytic converters. Cure is to due a running data-log and the run profile is sent to merc and they modify the programming to loosen up the parameters a bit and prevent the misfire codes. Problem is most common with twin stern drives at higher rpm/speeds due to prop slip caused by slight cavitation.
 
Thanks, I appreciate it. The boat is at dealer now. I have broken screw tabs on both distributors which they are replacing. The distributors are being held on by ziplock cables and are loose. They think the loose distributors are part of the problem. I will ask them to contact MerCruiser about the ECM programming.

It appears that the broken distributor screw tabs on this engine is common; appears to me to be a manufacturing fault but Brunswick will not cover the replacement under warranty. I am nearing the end of the 5-year Premier "bow to stern" warranty.
 
Might want your dealer to contact Merc - with some of the earlier catalyzed 350 Mags they had this issue due to running parameters being set to tight on the ECM programming to prevent backfiring in the catalytic converters. Cure is to due a running data-log and the run profile is sent to merc and they modify the programming to loosen up the parameters a bit and prevent the misfire codes. Problem is most common with twin stern drives at higher rpm/speeds due to prop slip caused by slight cavitation.

There's a lot of truth to this. After I was able to get rid of the mis-fire codes, I started to get a Catalyst error. Sounds like a little programming could fix a lot of headaches.
 
Those dist bases can be repaired quite easily with a small piece of starboard
 
There's a lot of truth to this. After I was able to get rid of the mis-fire codes, I started to get a Catalyst error. Sounds like a little programming could fix a lot of headaches.

Dear FastMarkA,
Thank you for this valuable information. Since it's been about 2 1/2 years since you learned that Mercury had some of their running parameters set too tight on the ECM programming to prevent backfiring in the catalytic converters, causing Mis-Fires. Has this adjustment been confirmed by Mercury and did they make the necessary adjustments to their running parameters and if so was this a "permanent fix," and did it eliminate the Mis-Fire codes on your engines?
I have spent a lot of time and $$$ chasing my Mis-Fire error codes. I have installed four new O2 sensors, re-gapped and installed new spark plugs and new spark plug wires, a distributor cap and rotor and I still have a Mis-Fire error code.
I am looking forward for your reply and I am hoping to hear that your engine Mis-Fire codes have been permanently eliminated.

Thank you,
David
 
Might want your dealer to contact Merc - with some of the earlier catalyzed 350 Mags they had this issue due to running parameters being set to tight on the ECM programming to prevent backfiring in the catalytic converters. Cure is to due a running data-log and the run profile is sent to merc and they modify the programming to loosen up the parameters a bit and prevent the misfire codes. Problem is most common with twin stern drives at higher rpm/speeds due to prop slip caused by slight cavitation.

Dear Jimsroc,
Thank you for the time you took to read and post a fix for a problem that has driven me as well as others "CRAZY!!! This fix was a tricky one to diagnose.

Thank you again,
David Meeks
 
Wow- i have been fighting this same problem for YEARS! I have changed plugs, wires, distributor, 02 sensors, etc. i ended up just taking the wires off the alarm bell so i dont have to hear it. my misfire alarm goes off as soon as the key turns on even before i start the engine! Did you ever come up with a solution?

2010 merc mag 350 mpi, single engine, bravo 3 on a sea ray 260.
 

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