Underwater LED lights

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  1. fatbrys

    fatbrys New Member

    10
    May 11, 2015
    East Patchogue
    2000 Sundancer 310
    350 mpi
    Has anyone installed underwater LED lights on their boat? Is a 9w drain plug light enough? Or 27w? Should I put them on the trim tabs also to fan out the light? Any brand recommendations? Flush mount? Any advice would be appreciated.
     
  2. NaughtyDog

    NaughtyDog Member

    210
    Sep 29, 2013
    Surrey, B.C.
    2001 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    AB 320 VS RIB w/25hp Merc 2-strk
    3126 Cats, propped @ 22x23
    Though I have not made the investment yet at this point, it seems the consensus in most of the other threads on this topic is that the Seablaze X is the way to go for affordability and function


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  3. Pony Racer

    Pony Racer Member

    128
    Aug 13, 2015
    Ct
    2005 Sea Ray 390 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 S-HO 496's, v-drives
    To say i research things prior to make a purchase is an understatement,

    that being said..
    2-3 months of researching all the LED lighting systems out there..
    i purchased Seablaze X.. at this point i havnt installed them yet, but have tested them to make sure they work and no issues
    ( I have bad luck with stuff getting shipped that doesnt work or work as advertised)
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    i say the only issue i have with the X.. is the multi color (white/blue) on the very first setting they dont "sync" and fade at different times
    (( that has more to do with basic electronics and not with build quality), (no 2 electrical circuits are ever the exactly the same))
     
  4. chrishick

    chrishick New Member

    76
    May 20, 2011
    Sarasota, FL
    2000 280 BR
    Twin 5.7L Carbs w/B1 drives
    I emailed customer service about that and they told me that's just the way it is. I was told it is because the fade is random, not a set pattern. It absolutely CAN be done, my pool/spa lights fade and sync just fine. Seems like high dollar boat lights that are frequently installed with multiple lights setups would sync with each other. It makes the fade setting worthless on multi-light installations.
     
  5. trit21

    trit21 New Member

    Dec 16, 2007
    Live, Orlando: Boat, Ft. Pierce
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    I have the Seablaze X and the random fade is a nice feature. Those of you that have OCD, look elsewhere but once you install them it is a really cool effect especially in super clean water, dark water all UW lights suck. On larger boats that have multiple lights around the perimeter there is a main CPU that controls the lights, they are not controlled internally like the Seablaze. They really do look great and you can't beat the price or customer service
     
  6. BritLady

    BritLady Active Member

    Jul 30, 2011
    FL West Coast
    2006 - 340 SeaRay Sundancer, Garmin 840XS GPS & Garmin 7401XS GPS
    2013 - Mercury 280 RIB Dink 8'10"
    Inboard 8.1 Horizon Mercruiser & 2015 6HP Tohatsu O/B.
    We have Seablaze X too and love the way they fade and change color, especially in clear water.


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  7. SAshton

    SAshton Member

    415
    Nov 30, 2007
    somerset, mass
    2004 280 Sundancer
    Twin 4.3 w/A1 drives
    Looked at the seablaze spectrum but very pricey? Who has the best prices in the seablaze x?
     
  8. Pony Racer

    Pony Racer Member

    128
    Aug 13, 2015
    Ct
    2005 Sea Ray 390 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 S-HO 496's, v-drives
    found them for under $300 shipped each, on that big biddem up site..

    ordered them on Wednesday.. they arrived friday afternoon..
     
  9. Pony Racer

    Pony Racer Member

    128
    Aug 13, 2015
    Ct
    2005 Sea Ray 390 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 S-HO 496's, v-drives
    those are externally controlled lighting systems, at that point yes they can be controlled to turn on and off synced 100% to any color/ timing..

    when you get into integrated circuits that are controlled by logic/timing..
    simple OHM's law applies, and that is that no matter what you try no 2 circuits are EVER identical, each light in the Seablaze X is essentially its own circuit even wired in parallel
    what that means is ELECTRONICS, in a nuts shell is NOT an exact science..
    example.. you have 2 circuits both made at the same factory at the same time with the exact same materials..

    with a battery, and copper wire going to a light bulb and a 10% 2 ohm resister

    now here is where it gets interesting.. the 2 ohm resisters have a 10% tolerance (for instance). that means it can have a resistance of 1.8-2.2 ohms..
    although they are both considered 2 ohm resisters, your current across each circuit will be different..

    thus the timing on the Seablaze X in this case will be different on each individual light..

    if you want them all to change colors at the same time, you would need an external controller which would mean there is no "logic" in the light its self but the controller dictates the "logic" (colors).
     
  10. gtfireftr

    gtfireftr Member

    275
    Oct 9, 2014
    Westport MA
    1997 Sea Ray Sundancer 290
    Twin 4.3 liter w/Alpha Drives
    Has anyone mounted lights on the trim tabs?
    If so where?
     
  11. fatbrys

    fatbrys New Member

    10
    May 11, 2015
    East Patchogue
    2000 Sundancer 310
    350 mpi
    Thanks for all the input, will look into them.
     
  12. SkiPharmer

    SkiPharmer Member

    86
    Jul 27, 2014
    St. Croix River, MN
    "Apres Ski" is a 1995 Sea Ray Sundancer 330, Twin 454 MerCruiser V-Drives
    Twin 7.4 Liter Mercruisers V-drives
    Has anyone used or know of anyone who has used any products from the website/company BoatPlugLight.com? Their stuff seems legit but I have no idea how large/bright of a light to buy? Do they work well? Easy install?

    thanks!
     
  13. chrishick

    chrishick New Member

    76
    May 20, 2011
    Sarasota, FL
    2000 280 BR
    Twin 5.7L Carbs w/B1 drives
    My pool/spa lights are absolutely not externally controlled and I can tell you they synch with each other for 6-8 hours at a time with no problem. Maybe they are off by a few milliseconds, but not to the human eye. Or maybe they're just magic?


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  14. chrishick

    chrishick New Member

    76
    May 20, 2011
    Sarasota, FL
    2000 280 BR
    Twin 5.7L Carbs w/B1 drives
    I tried the Gatlin 4000 lumen light and it was "OK". Pretty bright, but not enough for me and I didn't like the whole plug thing. I was afraid the guys at the marina might damage the cord taking it out after each time we used the boat. I decided to go with the Seablaze X for a little extra money.


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  15. Wylie_Tunes

    Wylie_Tunes Member

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    Oct 26, 2012
    Lake Wylie NC area
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    Not impressed at all. It seems like they are taking brass plumbing fittings and gluing LEDs in them. Beyond that, i dont like drain plug lights for a couple of reasons. If you have a single engine outboard or i/o, the drive creates a shadow. On other boats with wake plates, again you get a shadow. If you have a trailer boat that requires removing the drain plug for draining, this will cause the cable to fail eventually. Their answer is to buy and install a dedicated garboard for the light.
     
  16. Pony Racer

    Pony Racer Member

    128
    Aug 13, 2015
    Ct
    2005 Sea Ray 390 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 S-HO 496's, v-drives
    there is a reason all computers use a global atomic clock to sync time ( because all clocks/computers/circuits are off a few milliseconds from each other).. because of what i mentioned... ill bet, if you left your lights on long enough they will be different colors eventually (if not they have a "control" circuit).. those milliseconds add up..to full seconds.. those full seconds will eventually lead up to all the bulbs being out of sync could take hours, could take days, could take weeks or longer, when you power them down the "counter" inside the circuit will reset and start at a certain color.. and will start counting from 0 again..

    you can have 100 computers all count to 1,000,000 every single one of them will arrive a few milliseconds apart from each other which is why they all need to sync..

    if there was no "sync" your GPS in your car/phone/chart-plotter etc. wouldn't work AT ALL.. take a left turn now!! means you end up in a lake
    trust me i've been in telecom for over 20 years..
    i know a "little" bit (sarcasm) about syncing communications, electronics, fiber optics, which is LIGHT going through glass..
     
  17. chrishick

    chrishick New Member

    76
    May 20, 2011
    Sarasota, FL
    2000 280 BR
    Twin 5.7L Carbs w/B1 drives
    I fully understand the intricacies of electronic circuits, but I don't plan on leaving my underwater lights on for long enough for them to become out of sync. If they do become out of sync after a day or two I can just turn them off/on to reset them. Just for fun, I just turned on my pool lights and will leave them on until they are noticeably out of sync. I'll see how long it takes. FYI, this is the type of light I have. http://www.inyopools.com/Products/1...sTEdkjhXywiNYx43cVyY-uParpYzkVciZEaAh-t8P8HAQ

    My original point stands. My expensive underwater lights do not sync, when my much cheaper pool lights do sync. It can be done easily, and I wish Seablaze had.
     
  18. Pony Racer

    Pony Racer Member

    128
    Aug 13, 2015
    Ct
    2005 Sea Ray 390 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 S-HO 496's, v-drives
    costs, will vary for manufacturing purposes..
    different materials the lighting fixture you linked is for lack of a better term,

    a $300 screw in light bulb that has no water pressures to deal with, made for clear water (less lumens go further), larger and less expensive electronic components..
    vs
    a watertight integrated circuit exposed to corrosive elements that is about 1/3 the size with higher lumen output..

    there is your cost difference ..
     
  19. neale13

    neale13 New Member

    31
    Jan 26, 2010
    annapolis,md
    2008 Sea Ray Sundancer 330
    496/inboard
    Just put 2 seablazex on my 330 sundancer. work great,just put the boat in. We just cut the wires from the old factory underwater lts. Took about 2 hrs.
     

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