The future of EVs? Maybe not so bad?

[Blueone]

I've seen pictures of roadside service vehicles with just such a device.

Isn't it MUCH easier to deliver a 5 gallon can when someone runs out of gas?

You mean 5 gallons of capitalistic poison ?

 

[jmauld]

Wouldn't faster discharge be a disadvantage? Understand faster charging is good. But running one down faster sounds counterintuitive and not good.

The ability to discharge faster means you can get more immediate power out of the same size pack. Useful for racing, not for long trips.

 

[Blueone]

-6 this morning in Michigan….wonder how far you get after your ev sat out all night

 

[jmauld]

-6 this morning in Michigan….wonder how far you get after your ev sat out all night

-6 isn’t a reason to avoid EVs. It’s a reason to move!

 

[Blueone]

 

[Pirate Lady]

EVs are great as an option for those that the vehicle fits. But the current forced adoption is a recipe for disaster. They are a suburban vehicle. I don’t see how they’ll work in a city like Chicago where everyone parks on the street. Or in rural areas where people dive a lot of miles. Not to mention the power grid isn’t anywhere near ready. And the environmental disaster that is mining for the minerals to make the batteries.

Golf, I can’t hit ‘like’ a million times so I will reply it’s gonna be a chit show. Every thing you said times a million!
Hardly anyone in Baltimore County has a garage, and NOBODY in the city, or Philly or NYC or DC. Where the FARK are 12+ million people supposed to plug into! It’s a sad joke.

 

[Blueone]

Golf, I can’t hit ‘like’ a million times!

here use this

 

[Pirate Lady]

And every single time I see that smug ass con man with his stupid smirk I really want to smack that fkn jackass rocket fool and all the people that believe his bullshit. Fkn jackass is no better than Pharm Bro or Lizzie ‘Borden’ Holmes, all con artists. hope this link works….

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/12/30/tesla-exploded-dynamite-repair-costs-22k-moos-pkg-vpx.cnn

 

[carterchapman]

It seems like we are gravitating towards EV for our next new car. Really interested in the new Mecerdes EQS.

It's not because of climate change considerations. It is purely and singularly about the experience driving and riding in the vehicle.

Mark - here's a Mercedes model to look at:

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/new-mercedes/3021121

 

[TimW]

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That’s the one I was thinking of!

 

[Shenanigans77]

What year duramax you have? I have an 08 (the year before they added def) that I bought new, has 260k miles on it. I deleted the exhaust filter, and put a tuner on it. I’ll probably drive it til they put me in the ground.

11 LML. 141k. Mine doesnt have any def, egr, or particulate filter either.
Same, zero rust and everything works. Gonna drive it for at least another decade

 

[Creekwood]

60% of the electric in the United States is generated by fossil fuel which will not change because it's needed for demand and reliability . With that said the cost ,slow recharge, Limited range, cost of and limited raw supplies needed to make batteries and the fact recycling of used up batteries is still unknow all are reason EV will not replace combustion engines. If everyone own's a EV car across America plugs in after 6:00 to get charged this will eliminate Off Peak time for generation. Off Peak is when the US. manufacturing saves money on their electric bill . If you take that savings away from them we will all pay the the price for it. Remember those 60% Power Plants will fill the void not Wind or Solar. Now here in the East because of the rust belt the Grid and what's left of all the Power Plants the supply will not be a problem Mid and the West can't say that.

Not in Canada though. Here is our current source of electricity. We are blessed with lots of hydroelectric capacity (and still some untapped capacity in the north). Our power prices are still too high though.

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[Blueone]

Not in Canada though. Here is our current source of electricity. We are blessed with lots of hydroelectric capacity (and still some untapped capacity in the north). Our power prices are still too high though.

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Still too high??????????

Canada is the only place I have heard of people stealing electricity.

 

[km1125]

Not in Canada though. Here is our current source of electricity. We are blessed with lots of hydroelectric capacity (and still some untapped capacity in the north). Our power prices are still too high though.

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Is that all Canada or just Ontario? I thought Ontario's mix was higher in nukes. Labrador has a ton of 'real' hydro but no where to send it.

Just curious what your "all-in" cost per kW is... final bill divided by total kW (so that includes taxes or any other fees) ?

 

[Blueone]

Is that all Canada or just Ontario? I thought Ontario's mix was higher in nukes. Labrador has a ton of 'real' hydro but no where to send it.

Just curious what your "all-in" cost per kW is... final bill divided by total kW (so that includes taxes or any other fees) ?

You have to ask what time of day… He might be washing and drying clothes after midnight. It’s insane… you won’t get a real answer…. Everyone is different

 

[Creekwood]

You have to ask what time of day… He might be washing and drying clothes after midnight. It’s insane… you won’t get a real answer…. Everyone is different

We don’t do anything strange. Ontario residential power is priced based on time of use. 3 parts to the day:
Peak is C$0.17 per KWh
Mid peak os C$0.113
Off peak (after 7pm to 6am) is C$0.082

So our last bill for December was a total of 770 KWH and the total price including “delivery” and other crap was a total of C$121.21 (roughly US$95.00) so that is US$12.30 per KWH blended, all in. Not sure how that compares to you in the US.

For much of the COVID time the government directed utilities to suspend the time of use billing (so many working at home I guess) but I am not sure when it ended. I don’t pay much attention to it.

 

[Creekwood]

Still too high??????????

Canada is the only place I have heard of people stealing electricity.

Where did you hear that? You say that like its a common thing. Its not. Two of my clients are Hydro One and Toronto Hydro. Stolen power is virtually non-existent. That I can 100% guarantee you. And they catch it very quickly because of excess loss on particular substations. Generally it is found to be Mary-Jane grow-ops tapping in before the meter.

 

[Blueone]

That I can 100% guarantee you. .

How can you say that?
Who ever you are believing is wrong. My point is the cost of electric in Canada forces people to steal…. Not unlike taxes forcing you to buy cigarettes from the Indians … is that not true as well ?

 

[Nater Potater]

...so that is US$12.30 per KWH blended, all in. Not sure how that compares to you in the US.

I'm thinking you meant "12.3¢" Here in south Idaho, power runs 7.9¢/KwH USD except for the three summer months when it goes to 8.5¢. Most of our power is hydro-electric. However, the dams that create the power have been blamed for disrupting the salmon migrations, and many are being slated for breaching. It sometimes seems as if there's no winning and that the Luddites are doing all they can to take us into an almost Amish-like form of society. On the other hand, I can't help but feel that pulling such massive amounts of hydrocarbon fuel up out of the ground where it's been sequestered all these years and releasing into the atmosphere can't be good.

 

[Creekwood]

How can you say that?
Who ever you are believing is wrong. My point is the cost of electric in Canada forces people to steal…. Not unlike taxes forcing you to buy cigarettes from the Indians … is that not true as well ?

You are wrong on power. And I guess some people buy cigarettes on reserve if they live near a reserve. But most don’t.