So you got yourself COVID vaccine. Think you can’t get COVID? Think again.

OllieC said:
It seems like the US government does not care. After all, the Biden admin is using the military to ship unvaccinated illegal aliens all over the country, by the thousands, yet you pick on a 36 year old?
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Good question! Why are the individuals crossing the border not being given vaccines?
 
Haden said:
Good question! Why are the individuals crossing the border not being given vaccines?
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Some are according to CNN…o_O Usually, when you go through the emigration process, when you are applying for citizenship, you are also screened for diseases like Tuberculosis. This is not happening.
 
To add to this - where are all these people getting tested? Last year, I can recall loooong line to testing centers. Now, they are ghost towns. How are all these positive cases being found??
 
OllieC said:
It seems like the US government does not care. After all, the Biden admin is using the military to ship unvaccinated illegal aliens all over the country, by the thousands, yet you pick on a 36 year old?
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add another 1,000+ a day that aren't caught crossing, they're going wherever they want, spreading whatever they have.
 
Civility said:
Does this mean I can still get polio even though I was vaccinated?. Doesn’t make sense
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You realize that COVID is a very different virus. It does make sense. Think about it. This explains why the entire globe is taking this virus VERY seriously. Its mutated already several times and gets stronger each time. The vaccines work to prevent serious illness with these current variants. Not to prevent it. Whether they work or not on the next generation remains to be seen. Not vaccinating is not an option. The risks of the variants becoming uncontrollable is too great.
 
Some folks are probably quite worried about China's fight against the virus, they're only 16% vaccinated ya' know. This chart should tell us something, their 7 day running average of cases was 71 on August 2nd.
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Dani-Lu said:
Not sure what our gov't has to do with making a decision to protect yourself and others around you - My decisions are based on reality, not what the gov't says. But considering less than 50% of the U.S. are vaccinated, I would say our gov't is doing a crappy job of creating panic. Or maybe people are being panicked into fear of the vaccine.

With respect to vaccinated folks wearing masks, this is not about the health of the vaccinated people. In most cases they are very well protected from any extreme outcome. This is more about the vaccinated people unknowingly carrying and spreading Covid to unvaccinated people, who are more easily infected and carrying it to other people. Again this is about others, not just ourselves!
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Why should I give a rats arse about those people who don't want to take the vaccine? Time to let Darwin do his job.
 
firecadet613 said:
I'm 36 and in great health. What's the survival rate for those my age who get COVID??

Wouldn't using my brain be not getting a vaccine with unknown long term side effects?
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That is your personal individual trade off decision, but there is another broader aspect of that. That is the role that widespread vaccination has on preventing serious illness from overwhelming our hospitals again.

I still believe that the biggest risk is not getting this stopped before a more serious mutation that can’t be controlled happens. I have heard some people say that a global virus cannot sustain itself if it kills its host. And if a virus was a logical thinking being, I might agree. But its not.

What may very well happen is that it mutates to a much more dangerous version, that will start to cause more serious illness. And if that happens, by the time it self-regulates a lot of hosts (population) will be gone. Yeah, you’ll say probably fear-mongering, so say it. But in my mind that is the real reason to push vaccines.
 
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Dani-Lu said:
Good questions firecadet.

The survival rate for you is very high. But this is not just about you dying, it is about eliminating the ability for this disease to continue to mutate in young healthy hosts. This is about stopping this disease in it's tracks!
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If you truly want to do this, we'd be vaccinating other countries first. The freaking Delta came from India for crying out loud.
 
Haden said:
Seen this yesterday, and it brought back a lot of memories. View attachment 109869
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Do you remember people saying that COVID was just like a cold? It will be gone by spring 2020? How about this for bringing back memories:
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Golfman25 said:
If you truly want to do this, we'd be vaccinating other countries first. The freaking Delta came from India for crying out loud.
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That is crazy, particularly because a huge portion of the AZ vaccine was produced in India. But India is extremely overpopulated with very dense populations and very poor generally. So its no surprise it was hard for India to achieve the vaccination stats of the more wealthy nations like the US, UK, Canada etc.
 
Woody said:
Some folks are probably quite worried about China's fight against the virus, they're only 16% vaccinated ya' know. This chart should tell us something, their 7 day running average of cases was 71 on August 2nd.
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It’s a shame that this Communist, totalitarian regime wouldn’t want to help the world by allowing the US and other countries understand how their catastrophe of humanity was created. It is also a shame, we’re discovering, that the US may have had a hand in it as well as spreading misinformation.
 
Creekwood said:
That is your personal individual trade off decision, but there is another broader aspect of that. That is the role that widespread vaccination has on preventing serious illness from overwhelming our hospitals again.

I still believe that the biggest risk is not getting this stopped before a more serious mutation that can’t be controlled happens. I have heard some people say that a global virus cannot sustain itself if it kills its host. And if a virus was a logical thinking being, I might agree. But its not.

What may very well happen is that it mutates to a much more dangerous version, that will start to cause more serious illness. And if that happens, by the time it self-regulates a lot of hosts (population) will be gone. Yeah, you’ll say probably fear-mongering, so say it. But in my mind that is the real reason to push vaccines.
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You mean overloaded hospitals, with the dancing nurses? Over 600,00 people skipped chemo during the last lockdown, 300,00+ cases of child abuse went unnoticed (schools closed), many stroke victims didn't go to the hospital and avoided medical care - all because of this "pandemic".

How is this virus so smart, it knows to go to the House side of the US Capital and not the Senate side? That's the only side the Capital Physician mandated masks....
 
OllieC said:
It’s a shame that this Communist, totalitarian regime wouldn’t want to help the world by allowing the US and other countries understand how their catastrophe of humanity was created. It is also a shame, we’re discovering, that the US may have had a hand in it as well as spreading misinformation.
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Ollie, on this I agree. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are pretty good its a duck.
I actually think that the US has strong information that it was an issue at the Wuhan lab, maybe even "proof" but is avoiding a global catastrophe by immediately calling them out and risking more serious repercussions, economically or otherwise.

I also believe that Donald Trump was provided with early evidence and probably coached by his team that it was too serious a world issue for him to leak that information. And he is smart enough to understand that risk. So his "wink wink" was to continually call it the China virus without saying any more. I could be wrong, but that is my totally unsubstantiated opinion. There are lots of espionage and war secrets that don't see the light of day. Yet....
 
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